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History BA versus Liberal Studies BA
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Does anyone have an opinion on or experience with the difference between a history BA and a liberal studies BA in the job market? I'm a history major but am considering switching so that I can eliminate the 2 remaining UL history courses I need, and for which there are no test-out options.

I never intended to "use" the history degree. History is just my favorite subject, and I figured it would be a relatively painless way to jump through the college degree hoop.

Any liberal studies BA holders, who didn't go on to grad school, wish you had majored in something more specific?

I'm tired and ready for this to be over. Thanks for any wisdom!
Kelly
BS, History - Excelsior College - 2011
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Scholar Interrupted Wrote:Any liberal studies BA holders, who didn't go on to grad school, wish you had majored in something more specific?

I do. I sometimes wish I had gotten a degree in something besides liberal studies so I don't have to explain my degree. It'd be easier to say I have a history degree rather than a liberal studies degree and then have people ask what I majored in. Rolleyes
Jesse
BA, Thomas Edison State College
MS, Grand Canyon University
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HawkGuy Wrote:I do. I sometimes wish I had gotten a degree in something besides liberal studies so I don't have to explain my degree. It'd be easier to say I have a history degree rather than a liberal studies degree and then have people ask what I majored in. Rolleyes
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I agree. Get the history degree. No it doesn't specifically prepare you for a job, but neither does a LA degree. It's my opinion that having a major presents you as a more focused scholar, but that's just my two cents. Oh, and because history was your favorite subject is a totally good reason to earn a degree in history.
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When I started this thing back in June I thought that it was soo cool that I could essentially just take a bunch of gened classes and get a BA in liberal arts. My interests are all over the road so it was extremely tempting. Then I thought about what a pain in the ass it would be to explain to them what my degree is in and then what an even bigger pain in the ass it would be to not hit them after they haughtily snickered at me for not having a "real" major.

Then I saw how nicely CLEP/DANTES dovetails with TESC's history degree and my own facination with history. Now I'm 18 credits out!!!
DEGREES EARNED: [SIZE="1"]
BA, History, TESC '10
AAS, Mechanics and Maintenance, TESC '10
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TESTS PASSED:[SIZE="1"]
CLEP Social Sciences & History - 70/50
CLEP American Government - 65/50
CLEP English Composition General - 68/50
CLEP A & I Literature 70/50
CLEP Sociology 73/50
CLEP College Math 74/50
CLEP Intro Psychology 72/50
CLEP College Algebra 65/50
CLEP Macroeconomics 73/50
CLEP Microeconomics 70/50
CLEP Western Civ. I 79/50
CLEP Western Civ. II 70/50
CLEP US History I 79/50
CLEP US History II 78/50
DSST Technical Writing 63/46
DSST Intro to Computing 463/400
DSST Substance Abuse 463/400
DSST Fundamentals of Algebra 433/400
DSST World Religions 467/400
DSST The Civil War and Reconstruction 68/47
DSST A History of the Vietnam War 78/44
DSST An Introduction to the Modern Middle East 80/47
DSST Western Europe since 1945 71/47
DSST Rise and Fall of the Soviet Union 70/45

[SIZE="2"]ON DECK:[/SIZE]

A B.E. or an MBA
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94steve Wrote:Then I saw how nicely CLEP/DANTES dovetails with TESC's history degree and my own facination with history. Now I'm 18 credits out!!!
I'm seriously thinking about going back for a second bachelors in history for this very reason.
Jesse
BA, Thomas Edison State College
MS, Grand Canyon University
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Thanks so much, Jesse, Jennifer, and 94steve. I just needed to be slapped around a little to regain consciousness. :o I was already a bit concerned about how to explain a history degree, but LS might get even more frowns.

Jesse, your feedback is what I was especially looking for. I'm pretty sure I'll stick to the plan now and just tough it out. Maybe I'll tackle the psychology ECEs I have planned for my focus next and save the two more history courses for later next year, when I'm less tired. I thought about taking the American Dream ECE, which would give me the 6 credits I need. But after seeing what folks here had to say about it, I'm afraid there's no way to sufficiently prepare for it, and it would drag down my GPA.

Funny thing: I mistakenly requested approval to take the World Conflicts Since 1900 ECE, which I didn't think would apply to any of my remaining requirements, and it was actually approved. The advisor didn't say how it would apply, so I've asked for clarification. Maybe, just maybe, I can use that to eliminate one of the remaining courses.
Kelly
BS, History - Excelsior College - 2011
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At the Undergrad level I don't think a History major is going to wow a prospective employer any more than a Liberal arts major. There's a lot of Bachelor's degree that pretty much carry the same weight unless their really specialized such as engineering or nursing. I know tons of people who were Psych, Sociology, and History majors who are working in totally unrelated fields. I found out my orthopedic surgeon was a Liberal Arts major at an Ivy League university. And then he ended up graduating from the same Ivy League Med school. I asked him why he wasn't premed in undergrad. He told me it was easier on his GPA going through the Liberal Arts route and less competition. In cases like these being a Liberal Arts major is actually an advantage. BTW, I'm not just saying this because I'm a Liberal Arts major as well. I'm going to worry about being more specialized when I go to grad school.
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Scholar Interrupted Wrote:Does anyone have an opinion on or experience with the difference between a history BA and a liberal studies BA in the job market? I'm a history major but am considering switching so that I can eliminate the 2 remaining UL history courses I need, and for which there are no test-out options.

Why can't you test out of your history requirements? The only requirement for the History major at EC that doesn't seem to have a test-out option is the historiography requirement. For everything else, there are a lot of test options available for history. In addition to Dantes exams, there are also:

Excelsior:
World Conflicts since 1900 (3 semester credits)
American Dream (6 semester credits, can count as either history or literature)

Ohio University:
Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia (4 quarter hours, or 2.67 semester credits)
Ancient Greece (4 quarter hours, or 2.67 semester credits)
Ancient Rome (4 quarter hours, or 2.67 semester credits)

Good luck, whatever you decide.
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taylor Wrote:In cases like these being a Liberal Arts major is actually an advantage. BTW, I'm not just saying this because I'm a Liberal Arts major as well. I'm going to worry about being more specialized when I go to grad school.

And then there is that point of view, which is also quite valid. It had also occurred to me that history might pigeonhole me too much as an egghead type who is just looking for a job while she saves money for grad school. Since I don't plan on grad school, that would be quite unfortunate.

In the end, I think not planning on grad school is a good reason to specialize now: I won't be specializing later.
Kelly
BS, History - Excelsior College - 2011
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MaieJaie Wrote:Excelsior:
World Conflicts since 1900 (3 semester credits)
American Dream (6 semester credits, can count as either history or literature)

Ohio University:
Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia (4 quarter hours, or 2.67 semester credits)
Ancient Greece (4 quarter hours, or 2.67 semester credits)
Ancient Rome (4 quarter hours, or 2.67 semester credits)

Good luck, whatever you decide.

Thanks! I considered American Dream but nixed it for fear it would drag down my GPA. (See above.) World Conflicts won't satisfy EC's "area" requirements. What I need are 6 UL credits specializing in either American history, European history, or non-Western world history, and they have to be the same. (The advisor responded as to why she had approved my erroneous request to take WC: it would apply as an elective but not to my major.)

The Ohio U is something I hadn't thought of, though, and I will have to ruminate on that some. Smile
Kelly
BS, History - Excelsior College - 2011
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