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(10-02-2018, 06:33 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote: There will always be exceptions. 
 
[size=medium]In general, I would rather have a Harvard's University Extension School degree than a Georgia Tech degree.  GT is not that well known.  ...
Can't agree with that. GT is a top 5 or ten in CS. Harvard isn't... Harvard Extension DEFINITELY isn't.
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(10-02-2018, 06:33 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote:
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(10-01-2018, 09:54 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote: I would take a Harvard Extension Degree over tons of big State University degrees myself.  Heck, I have done excellent with a Big three degree that most Americans have never heard of.

It depends on the field. I'd definitely choose Georgia Tech over Harvard Extension for anything related to IT or CS. It's cheaper, and you're learning at one of the best CS schools in the country.

There will always be exceptions. 
 
In general, I would rather have a Harvard's University Extension School degree than a Georgia Tech degree.  GT is not that well known.  Harvard is a World brand, and GT is not at that level nor will be in my lifetime.  For the great number of us, the Brand name and even college Major have little meaning in our careers. The level of degree does.  That was the case in my Army career and my second Federal career. 
 
When I just asked to have five weeks off to attend Harvard University EE programs next year (true story) my bosses were very supportive.  If I had asked them the same about GT, my same bosses would have said why?
 
Look at LinkedIn:
Harvard University: 239,540+ alumni and 846,909 followers on LinkedIn.
Georgia Institute of Technology: 150,994+ alumni and 248,004 followers on LinkedIn.

Georgia Tech is very well-known in the U.S. for STEM. It's common knowledge among people in tech that Harvard is not a top 10 school for engineering or CS.

Most people are not in the military, and most people in the workforce are going to be Milennials and Gen Z. A master's in general studies is not going to get you the same opportunities in tech as a bachelor's in CS. Not even in the federal government will an unrelated master's get you a GS-9 job in IT. If you don't have the degree, then you're going to need many years of experience. An unrelated master's would be worthless at that point.

If brand name is not important, then why would you spend 2.5 to 3 times the tuition for an unranked program that doesn't even have the best professors in your field?
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(10-02-2018, 09:24 PM)davewill Wrote:
(10-02-2018, 06:33 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote: There will always be exceptions. 
 
In general, I would rather have a Harvard's University Extension School degree than a Georgia Tech degree.  GT is not that well known.  ...
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Can't agree with that. GT is a top 5 or ten in CS. Harvard isn't... Harvard Extension DEFINITELY isn't.[/size]
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I said "in general."  I am not talking about a Major. I could care less about CS or IT.  I am talking the University.  Harvard is known everywhere.  My boss would go who is GT?   Harvard just raised $9.62 Billion in five years.  Most university brands can’t.  They are a brand.  Even non-degree Harvard types (Harvard EE 8-week Programs types) have donated so much money they name a building after them.  Why would they donate so much money?
https://www.hbs.edu/about/campus-and-cul...-hall.aspx
 
I respect you would like a GT degree.  I would take a Harvard's University Extension School degree myself.[/size]

(10-02-2018, 09:57 PM)sanantone Wrote:
(10-02-2018, 06:33 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote:
(10-02-2018, 03:10 AM)sanantone Wrote:
(10-01-2018, 09:54 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote: I would take a Harvard Extension Degree over tons of big State University degrees myself.  Heck, I have done excellent with a Big three degree that most Americans have never heard of.

It depends on the field. I'd definitely choose Georgia Tech over Harvard Extension for anything related to IT or CS. It's cheaper, and you're learning at one of the best CS schools in the country.

There will always be exceptions. 
 
In general, I would rather have a Harvard's University Extension School degree than a Georgia Tech degree.  GT is not that well known.  Harvard is a World brand, and GT is not at that level nor will be in my lifetime.  For the great number of us, the Brand name and even college Major have little meaning in our careers. The level of degree does.  That was the case in my Army career and my second Federal career. 
 
When I just asked to have five weeks off to attend Harvard University EE programs next year (true story) my bosses were very supportive.  If I had asked them the same about GT, my same bosses would have said why?
 
Look at LinkedIn:
Harvard University: 239,540+ alumni and 846,909 followers on LinkedIn.
Georgia Institute of Technology: 150,994+ alumni and 248,004 followers on LinkedIn.

Georgia Tech is very well-known in the U.S. for STEM. It's common knowledge among people  in tech that Harvard is not a top 10 school for engineering or CS.

Most people are not in the military, and most people in the workforce are going to be Milennials and Gen Z. A master's in general studies is not going to get you the same opportunities in tech as a bachelor's in CS. Not even in the federal government will an unrelated master's get you a GS-9 job in IT. If you don't have the degree, then you're going to need many years of experience. An unrelated master's would be worthless at that point.

If brand name is not important, then why would you spend 2.5 to 3 times the tuition for an unranked program that doesn't even have the best professors in your field?

You are only talking one narrow degree major. The Federal workforce is huge. Heck, I know GS-15’s with only high school diplomas. IT is a tiny group.
 
GT is ranked 69 in the World.  Harvard 3rd. 
https://www.topuniversities.com/universi...kings/2019
 
Why Harvard….because it’s Harvard.  Again, that is just me.
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(10-02-2018, 10:08 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote: My boss would go who is GT?

Your boss should get out more.
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(10-02-2018, 10:36 PM)jsd Wrote:
(10-02-2018, 10:08 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote: My boss would go who is GT?

Your boss should get out more.

He has two gov't retirements and loves hunting.  He does not care about sports nor the education-gov't complex.  The only real reason I know about GT is college sports.
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You both should get out more.
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(10-02-2018, 10:54 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote:
(10-02-2018, 10:36 PM)jsd Wrote:
(10-02-2018, 10:08 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote: My boss would go who is GT?

Your boss should get out more.

He has two gov't retirements and loves hunting.  He does not care about sports nor the education-gov't complex.  The only real reason I know about GT is college sports.

Considering that you would willingly spend more money at an open entry school just to have Harvard on your resume means that you care more about brand name.

(10-02-2018, 10:08 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote:
(10-02-2018, 09:24 PM)davewill Wrote:
(10-02-2018, 06:33 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote: There will always be exceptions. 
 
In general, I would rather have a Harvard's University Extension School degree than a Georgia Tech degree.  GT is not that well known.  ...
[size]
Can't agree with that. GT is a top 5 or ten in CS. Harvard isn't... Harvard Extension DEFINITELY isn't.[/size]
[size]

I said "in general."  I am not talking about a Major. I could care less about CS or IT.  I am talking the University.  Harvard is known everywhere.  My boss would go who is GT?   Harvard just raised $9.62 Billion in five years.  Most university brands can’t.  They are a brand.  Even non-degree Harvard types (Harvard EE 8-week Programs types) have donated so much money they name a building after them.  Why would they donate so much money?
https://www.hbs.edu/about/campus-and-cul...-hall.aspx
 
I respect you would like a GT degree.  I would take a Harvard's University Extension School degree myself.[/size]

(10-02-2018, 09:57 PM)sanantone Wrote:
(10-02-2018, 06:33 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote:
(10-02-2018, 03:10 AM)sanantone Wrote:
(10-01-2018, 09:54 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote: I would take a Harvard Extension Degree over tons of big State University degrees myself.  Heck, I have done excellent with a Big three degree that most Americans have never heard of.

It depends on the field. I'd definitely choose Georgia Tech over Harvard Extension for anything related to IT or CS. It's cheaper, and you're learning at one of the best CS schools in the country.

There will always be exceptions. 
 
In general, I would rather have a Harvard's University Extension School degree than a Georgia Tech degree.  GT is not that well known.  Harvard is a World brand, and GT is not at that level nor will be in my lifetime.  For the great number of us, the Brand name and even college Major have little meaning in our careers. The level of degree does.  That was the case in my Army career and my second Federal career. 
 
When I just asked to have five weeks off to attend Harvard University EE programs next year (true story) my bosses were very supportive.  If I had asked them the same about GT, my same bosses would have said why?
 
Look at LinkedIn:
Harvard University: 239,540+ alumni and 846,909 followers on LinkedIn.
Georgia Institute of Technology: 150,994+ alumni and 248,004 followers on LinkedIn.

Georgia Tech is very well-known in the U.S. for STEM. It's common knowledge among people  in tech that Harvard is not a top 10 school for engineering or CS.

Most people are not in the military, and most people in the workforce are going to be Milennials and Gen Z. A master's in general studies is not going to get you the same opportunities in tech as a bachelor's in CS. Not even in the federal government will an unrelated master's get you a GS-9 job in IT. If you don't have the degree, then you're going to need many years of experience. An unrelated master's would be worthless at that point.

If brand name is not important, then why would you spend 2.5 to 3 times the tuition for an unranked program that doesn't even have the best professors in your field?

You are only talking one narrow degree major. The Federal workforce is huge. Heck, I know GS-15’s with only high school diplomas. IT is a tiny group.
 
GT is ranked 69 in the World.  Harvard 3rd. 
https://www.topuniversities.com/universi...kings/2019
 
Why Harvard….because it’s Harvard.  Again, that is just me.

Out of the millions of colleges in the world, you think 69 is bad?

(10-02-2018, 10:08 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote:
(10-02-2018, 09:24 PM)davewill Wrote:
(10-02-2018, 06:33 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote: There will always be exceptions. 
 
In general, I would rather have a Harvard's University Extension School degree than a Georgia Tech degree.  GT is not that well known.  ...
[size]
Can't agree with that. GT is a top 5 or ten in CS. Harvard isn't... Harvard Extension DEFINITELY isn't.[/size]
[size]

I said "in general."  I am not talking about a Major. I could care less about CS or IT.  I am talking the University.  Harvard is known everywhere.  My boss would go who is GT?   Harvard just raised $9.62 Billion in five years.  Most university brands can’t.  They are a brand.  Even non-degree Harvard types (Harvard EE 8-week Programs types) have donated so much money they name a building after them.  Why would they donate so much money?
https://www.hbs.edu/about/campus-and-cul...-hall.aspx
 
I respect you would like a GT degree.  I would take a Harvard's University Extension School degree myself.[/size]

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(10-02-2018, 06:33 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote:
(10-02-2018, 03:10 AM)sanantone Wrote:
(10-01-2018, 09:54 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote: I would take a Harvard Extension Degree over tons of big State University degrees myself.  Heck, I have done excellent with a Big three degree that most Americans have never heard of.

It depends on the field. I'd definitely choose Georgia Tech over Harvard Extension for anything related to IT or CS. It's cheaper, and you're learning at one of the best CS schools in the country.

There will always be exceptions. 
 
In general, I would rather have a Harvard's University Extension School degree than a Georgia Tech degree.  GT is not that well known.  Harvard is a World brand, and GT is not at that level nor will be in my lifetime.  For the great number of us, the Brand name and even college Major have little meaning in our careers. The level of degree does.  That was the case in my Army career and my second Federal career. 
 
When I just asked to have five weeks off to attend Harvard University EE programs next year (true story) my bosses were very supportive.  If I had asked them the same about GT, my same bosses would have said why?
 
Look at LinkedIn:
Harvard University: 239,540+ alumni and 846,909 followers on LinkedIn.
Georgia Institute of Technology: 150,994+ alumni and 248,004 followers on LinkedIn.

Georgia Tech is very well-known in the U.S. for STEM. It's common knowledge among people  in tech that Harvard is not a top 10 school for engineering or CS.

Most people are not in the military, and most people in the workforce are going to be Milennials and Gen Z. A master's in general studies is not going to get you the same opportunities in tech as a bachelor's in CS. Not even in the federal government will an unrelated master's get you a GS-9 job in IT. If you don't have the degree, then you're going to need many years of experience. An unrelated master's would be worthless at that point.

If brand name is not important, then why would you spend 2.5 to 3 times the tuition for an unranked program that doesn't even have the best professors in your field?

You are only talking one narrow degree major. The Federal workforce is huge. Heck, I know GS-15’s with only high school diplomas. IT is a tiny group.
 
GT is ranked 69 in the World.  Harvard 3rd. 
https://www.topuniversities.com/universi...kings/2019
 
Why Harvard….because it’s Harvard.  Again, that is just me.

Of course there are GS-15s with a high school diploma who started working in the 80s and 90s. How long did it take them to get to that level? Regardless, they didn't need to spends tens of thousands at Harvard Extension, so you're not helping your case.
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(10-03-2018, 12:47 AM)jsd Wrote: You both should get out more.

Thanks but I have already served in fifteen foreign overseas deployments.  Flying is not fun.  I have driven across the USA three times and Canada once, but that takes time to enjoy it.

This list is where government and World Corporate C-Suite Executives types go to get more education.  I do not see GT on the list?  I will attend three of these (Harvard, MIT, and Rutgers) on this list as these three are approved for the GI Bill. I would love to attend the Unversity of Oxford. Wink   It’s a very long shot and will be all me $$$, but I keep it on my bucket list. Big Grin

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No one is claiming GT is known for its business school. No one would be surprised that they weren't on a ranking of popular business schools.
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(10-03-2018, 05:18 PM)jsd Wrote: No one is claiming GT is known for its business school. No one would be surprised that they weren't on a ranking of popular business schools.

I would bet GT does have a ranked Business School.
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