Degree Planning Advice - 31, Norway, No Higher Education

[ASenna]

WIKI will show you what others have transferred in very recently, if these credits are evaluated by NACES member, you should get the exact same credit as you see on the WIKI, I would plan accordingly with what information you have on the WIKI and take the bulk of the classes from Sophia.org, Study.com, that are showing as options.

Hello again,
So I think I have my head around what is required for the double degree. My only concern is my understanding of what can be shared between degrees and what has to be independent.

General Electives (45 Credits) - Shared
Mathematics: Area of Study (45 Credits)
Computer Science: Area of Study (45 Credits)
Electives (30 Credits) - Shared?

Can there be shared courses in the areas of study? For example Calculus l and the capstone are in both plans or should I think of it more like 45 shared General Electives and 90 independent credit (Areas of study) which will count towards the 30 Credits of electives as well.

I will get stuck in on the general electives until I have this figured out.

Thanks again.

[bjcheung77]

Previously it was a little different:
General Electives (60 Credits) - Shared
Mathematics: Area of Study (30 Credits)
Computer Science: Area of Study (30+ Credits)
Electives (30 Credits) - Shared

Now they've changed the numbers:
General Electives (45 Credits) - Shared
Mathematics: Area of Study (45 Credits)
Computer Science: Area of Study (45 Credits)
Electives (30 Credits) - Shared

Basically, they moved the 15 general education electives into the AOS electives, thus making it 'easier'
BA Math - Complete 12 credits in the Natural Sciences and Math areas plus Capstone
BA CS - Complete 6 credits in the Natural Sciences, Math, CS, and Capstone

[ASenna]

Hello,
Just a quick update. I have been making my way though Sophia course at the moment. It is Easter here and work is very quite so I have been able to make a big dent in this.

My original plan would have been to move onto OMSCS/OMSA Georgia Tech. However after working through a lot of math and computer science classes. I can concluded that I prefer the more math heavy classes. Based on this I am looking into a masters program in Applied and Computational Mathematics at my local university (UiB - University of Bergen). This masters would be free/ close to no cost, which is nice.

I am thinking that the two/double degree of Mathematics and Computer Science from TESU is still my best plan of action. Making the most of the ECTS from Metropolia and ROI. However I do have some questions.

The masters I am considering has some requirements for what classes they expect from a degree in mathematics. At least 70 ECTS (35 ish Credits) which includes the following:

- Calculus I,II,III
- Linear Algebra
- Differential Equations
- Functions of several Variables
- Programming (Already covered from the CS side of my plan)
- One of the following: Numerics/ Analysis/ Mechanics/ Advanced Differential Equations/ Statistics

From my initial pass through the options from TESU I would be lacking in some of these higher level math classes. What would be a good way to make this work? I guess I can find these classes from another school and transfer them in as RA credit?

How is the workload with the flat rate plan at TESU? I want to set myself up for success. I am able to work hard and put in the effort but I want to be realistic about what is achievable in a 12 week block. If I have many higher level math / cs courses all together I think this would be difficult, as I would still need to work a full time along side this.


I have attached a copy of what I have done so far and outlined based on the Wiki pages. Things in green are classes I have already completed. I have a lot of credit from Metropolia that is not on the plan as I am not sure where it goes. When is it a good idea to start to evaluate and see what I have left to-do and what does get accepted?

Thanks again for all your help. I still cant quite grasp that this is going to happen and that by the end of next year I could have a degree.

[rachel83az]

Just as a warning: the TESU BA Math is not "coded" as a math degree. See https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...es-Warning for more information. This might or might not matter, depending on the school and how Norway views American degrees. But it's still something to be aware of, just in case.

- Calculus I,II,III
- Linear Algebra
- Differential Equations
- Functions of several Variables
- Programming (Already covered from the CS side of my plan)
- One of the following: Numerics/ Analysis/ Mechanics/ Advanced Differential Equations/ Statistics

I think at least some of these should be covered by your Metropolia classes.

From my initial pass through the options from TESU I would be lacking in some of these higher level math classes. What would be a good way to make this work? I guess I can find these classes from another school and transfer them in as RA credit?

I would strongly recommend transferring what you can from sources that are not TESU and that are cheaper than TESU. There are a few suggestions here: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...egree_Plan

Part of your UL credit can come from your CS degree and vice versa. I would strongly recommend getting the SAS Advanced Programmer Certificate on Coursera, for instance. https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Coursera It doesn't really help you with the Norwegian university's requirements, but it's cheap UL credit that allows you to save money elsewhere.

TESU's Math degree already requires Calc I-III, so that's fine.
Linear Algebra, too.
If none of your Metropolia courses count in as Differential Equations, you can take that from West Texas A&M.
I'm not sure what "functions of several variables" means in this context; is that Calc IV at TESU or is that covered by one of the Metropolia courses?
You did Statistics at Metropolia, along with Engineering Mechanics, plus Sophia. So you should be covered for the last requirement.

How is the workload with the flat rate plan at TESU? I want to set myself up for success. I am able to work hard and put in the effort but I want to be realistic about what is achievable in a 12 week block. If I have many higher level math / cs courses all together I think this would be difficult, as I would still need to work a full time along side this.

It depends on the class(es). It's usually recommended to do no more than 2 UL courses at one time. For Computer Science specifically, this is usually:

Cornerstone (LL)
Capstone (UL)
Software Engineering (UL)
2 super easy LL courses or ePacks.

You can extend any course(s) you need for about $250 each. https://www.tesu.edu/tuition/fees You can do this as long as you've completed at least half of the coursework by the time you request the extension. https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/current/...xtensions/ This helps lighten the load and turns a 12 week term into a 20 week one, where necessary.

If you can't find the math you need cheaply/easily elsewhere, you might need 2 flat-rate terms. Not ideal, but not the worst thing ever either.

I have attached a copy of what I have done so far and outlined based on the Wiki pages. Things in green are classes I have already completed. I have a lot of credit from Metropolia that is not on the plan as I am not sure where it goes. When is it a good idea to start to evaluate and see what I have left to-do and what does get accepted?

It looks like you've just about finished the 579€ programme; is that correct? I would probably go ahead and get everything evaluated now. Apply to TESU if you haven't already, pay for the Medical Terminology TECEP (but do not take it). Then send your evaluated courses + Sophia to TESU. That way you can see where everything goes and you can start planning what else you need to take. Double check Metropolia's offerings to see if there is anything else that the Norwegian university might like to see. Maybe the Microprocessors course would be of interest/relevance?

[ASenna]

Just as a warning: the TESU BA Math is not "coded" as a math degree. See https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...es-Warning for more information. This might or might not matter, depending on the school and how Norway views American degrees. But it's still something to be aware of, just in case.

- Calculus I,II,III
- Linear Algebra
- Differential Equations
- Functions of several Variables
- Programming (Already covered from the CS side of my plan)
- One of the following: Numerics/ Analysis/ Mechanics/ Advanced Differential Equations/ Statistics

I think at least some of these should be covered by your Metropolia classes.

From my initial pass through the options from TESU I would be lacking in some of these higher level math classes. What would be a good way to make this work? I guess I can find these classes from another school and transfer them in as RA credit?

I would strongly recommend transferring what you can from sources that are not TESU and that are cheaper than TESU. There are a few suggestions here: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...egree_Plan

Part of your UL credit can come from your CS degree and vice versa. I would strongly recommend getting the SAS Advanced Programmer Certificate on Coursera, for instance. https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Coursera It doesn't really help you with the Norwegian university's requirements, but it's cheap UL credit that allows you to save money elsewhere.

TESU's Math degree already requires Calc I-III, so that's fine.
Linear Algebra, too.
If none of your Metropolia courses count in as Differential Equations, you can take that from West Texas A&M.
I'm not sure what "functions of several variables" means in this context; is that Calc IV at TESU or is that covered by one of the Metropolia courses?
You did Statistics at Metropolia, along with Engineering Mechanics, plus Sophia. So you should be covered for the last requirement.

How is the workload with the flat rate plan at TESU? I want to set myself up for success. I am able to work hard and put in the effort but I want to be realistic about what is achievable in a 12 week block. If I have many higher level math / cs courses all together I think this would be difficult, as I would still need to work a full time along side this.

It depends on the class(es). It's usually recommended to do no more than 2 UL courses at one time. For Computer Science specifically, this is usually:

Cornerstone (LL)
Capstone (UL)
Software Engineering (UL)
2 super easy LL courses or ePacks.

You can extend any course(s) you need for about $250 each. https://www.tesu.edu/tuition/fees You can do this as long as you've completed at least half of the coursework by the time you request the extension. https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/current/...xtensions/ This helps lighten the load and turns a 12 week term into a 20 week one, where necessary.

If you can't find the math you need cheaply/easily elsewhere, you might need 2 flat-rate terms. Not ideal, but not the worst thing ever either.

I have attached a copy of what I have done so far and outlined based on the Wiki pages. Things in green are classes I have already completed. I have a lot of credit from Metropolia that is not on the plan as I am not sure where it goes. When is it a good idea to start to evaluate and see what I have left to-do and what does get accepted?

It looks like you've just about finished the 579€ programme; is that correct? I would probably go ahead and get everything evaluated now. Apply to TESU if you haven't already, pay for the Medical Terminology TECEP (but do not take it). Then send your evaluated courses + Sophia to TESU. That way you can see where everything goes and you can start planning what else you need to take. Double check Metropolia's offerings to see if there is anything else that the Norwegian university might like to see. Maybe the Microprocessors course would be of interest/relevance?

Thanks for all the great information.

This CIP issues does have me a little concerned but maybe its not critical? Based on the information from the UiB website it seems that the emphasis is on the the classes taken more than the degree itself;

Bachelor degrees that qualify

• Usually, a Bachelor degree in Applied Mathematics/Mathematics is required for admission.
  
• Other bachelor degrees can qualify if you can document at least 70 ECTS relevant courses.
  

Bachelor degrees that do not qualify

• Bachelor in Economics/administration/similar: the degree does not contain relevant courses. Courses named «Matematics for economy» etc do not correspond to Calculus courses.
  
• Engineering degrees will seldom qualify without additional courses from a Mathematics department.
  

You also need to document

• Average grade of minimum C[url=https://www.uib.no/en/education/62545/academic-system#grading-scale][/url]
  

Couple this with a computer science degree that is in the correct CIP maybe its not an issue. I can send an email to UiB to check what there standing would be on this. I will also check if its possible to take the required math classes through them as this could save me some money and also guarantee that its accepted.

Good idea to take another pass though Metropolia to squeeze everything I can from it.

[rachel83az]

In that case, I agree that the CIP code (or lack thereof) is probably not critical for this particular degree. But certainly double-check with the university to ensure that you're on the right path.

[ASenna]

In that case, I agree that the CIP code (or lack thereof) is probably not critical for this particular degree. But certainly double-check with the university to ensure that you're on the right path.

Hello, I am looking into the SAS Advanced Programmer Professional Certificate from Coursera. Do you know of any other stand out course worth taking while I have a membership to take the SAS course?

[rachel83az]

The SAS Advanced Programmer Professional Certificate is the only one with UL credit. All other Coursera certificates that are ACE-recommended are LL credit. But, depending on exactly what you want to do, you might be interested in the Google Cybersecurity Professional Certificate: https://www.acenet.edu/National-Guide/Pa...0d3a363c81 We don't know how TESU will accept it, however, until someone reports back.

[bjcheung77]

And that's another reason to get a balanced mix/match trifecta of certs, degree, experience... I would also review the Coursera link here to see if the other comp sci classes can be used for the AOS or AOS electives in the BACS/BS CIS combo you're going for. If you have the energy, time to get these done, it may apply to your degree in the AOS or AOS electives. Link: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Coursera

[ASenna]

Hello,

I am making my way though Sophia. I should be done with everything in the next 4 weeks and will take a stock check of whats left. I have a quick question about the Fact, Fiction or Fake SOS-1100 course. I am wondering if I can take this via Edx and if its a good idea? Am I correct in thinking that Information Literacy via Edx is equivalent and will meet the requirement for SOS-1100?

The main reason I am considering this option is to give me some more space for another class in the flat rate term which would be nice with the double degree plan and I have a 30% discount for Edx and it seems to apply to this course which is great.

Thanks again everyone.