Courses for Upper Level credits for TESC degree

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Does anyone know of online courses that offer upper level credits in Natural Science, Mathematics and/or Music?

The only UL course I can find for these areas is UExcel Pathophysiology...

[sanantone]

If you're a TESC student, then Uexcel Genetics and Microbiology will be UL. SL Microbiology will also be UL. Microbiology will be UL for sure, but you would have to verify Genetics. Uexcel Bioethics might be another option. TECEP Networking Technology and DSST Management Information Systems count as UL natural science credits.
Sanantone's BA in Natural Sciences and Mathematics - Degree Forum Wiki

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Has the TECEP Network Technology been successfully transferred as a UL Natural Science course? I wrote to TESC, but it sounds like that it can't be used under that category.

I'm planning to complete 2 areas of study within one degree- Psychology and Natural Sciences. If my Capstone is on a psychology topic, do you know if it will still count as UL credits for the Natural Sciences area of study?

If these (Pathophysiology, Microbiology, Network Technology, Capstone) all count successfully as UL Natural Sciences credits, I'd still be short of 6 UL credits.... The DSST won't work for me... unless I complete 2 PLAs?

[lavagirl]

I wonder if Coopersmith Career Consulting ( NCCRS approved, 50$ per credit) course Social History of Jewish Food (SOC-302) will work for natural science upper credits as Nutritional science.

Credit recommendation: In the upper division associate/baccalaureate degree category, 3 semester hours in Judaic Studies, Sociology, Anthropology, Jewish History, Religion, Nutritional Science, or as General Elective.

[bricabrac]

Laughter,

Just wanted to offer my thoughts and a 6cr course recommendation.

Please be careful assuming what fits. It's a new calendar year and there may or may not have been changes. I would contact the Evaluations Team to confirm the use of Network Technology in the area of study. I offered the same advice to another forum member when I suggested he might possibly use the exam for CS credits. We just never know what changes/restrictions are made in a new calendar year. There have not been documented precedents that I've found that would substantiate the exam being used. Although as a CIS/CS? course I can't see why it shouldn't fit. The prefix CMP opens the door for anyone's interpretation it would have been so much easier if they just coded it CIS or COS. (shrugs) The exam has been discussed, but I have yet to see an evaluation posted that shows the course listed. I did a pretty intense search, maybe I missed it?

Anyway, when you want to appeal a decision you need to have facts to support your reasoning. If a precedent has not been set, or you can make a strong case that the course does in fact fit the degree concentration, the advising/registrar/evaluations department decision usually stands. Of course you can still challenge that decision by addressing an appeal to the Dean of the School. The Dean is the ultimate authority in such cases; at least this has been my experience at TESC.

Moving forward, I would recommend ENS-314 Global Environmental Change (6cr), you could take it at the same time as the capstone. ENS-314 has received excellent reviews from everone who' has taken the course. Do a search on this forum for member feedback. Most have advised taking DSST ENS-201 Environment and Humanity: Race to Save the Planet just after to take advantage of subject overlap.
As an FYI, there are actually three 6cr upper level courses at TESC, the other two are PSY-379 Social Psychology and HIS-356 War in American Society. I took the latter and it was great! They all have the same amount of written assignments as the 3cr courses although HIS-356 has a lot more reading (8 texts total, I only read the main text and 1 other, googled the rest). ENS314 and PSY379 both have one course text.

For music refer to FallingWaters posts on learning counts / PLA which provide a pathway to gaining U/L music credit. Links to her threads are below.

Music - PLA
Courses - http://www.degreeforum.net/general-educa...s-org.html
Process - http://www.degreeforum.net/general-educa...pdate.html


Good luck in your journey!

[sanantone]

Has the TECEP Network Technology been successfully transferred as a UL Natural Science course? I wrote to TESC, but it sounds like that it can't be used under that category.

I'm planning to complete 2 areas of study within one degree- Psychology and Natural Sciences. If my Capstone is on a psychology topic, do you know if it will still count as UL credits for the Natural Sciences area of study?

If these (Pathophysiology, Microbiology, Network Technology, Capstone) all count successfully as UL Natural Sciences credits, I'd still be short of 6 UL credits.... The DSST won't work for me... unless I complete 2 PLAs?

It was Ryoder who used it for his natural science degree. Things change, but TESC's advisors are often wrong. They have even been wrong through email. A senior admissions counselor told me through email that I couldn't use portfolio assessments under the Per Credit Tuition Plan, which turned out to not be true. She was also wrong about me being charged per credit for the assessments. You would want to contact the registrar on this. Advisors have often assumed that DSST Fundamentals of Counseling will not count as an UL psychology course because it is listed as a 200-level COU course in the catalog, but the registrar has always coded it as a 300-level PSY course.

I wonder if Coopersmith Career Consulting ( NCCRS approved, 50$ per credit) course Social History of Jewish Food (SOC-302) will work for natural science upper credits as Nutritional science.

Credit recommendation: In the upper division associate/baccalaureate degree category, 3 semester hours in Judaic Studies, Sociology, Anthropology, Jewish History, Religion, Nutritional Science, or as General Elective.

I doubt that TESC will count that as an UL biology course, but it wouldn't hurt to ask. If it's coded as NUTR, then there is a good chance it won't be counted as a natural science. When SL's Nutrition course was coded as NUTR, it was not allowed in gen ed. Now that it is coded as a BIO course, it's a natural science. Other than that, TESC does not follow UL/LL recommendations from ACE, NCCRS, or anywhere else.

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Thanks for your feedback, Sanantone and Bricabrac!

I guess I'll get those suggestions screened by TESC once I enroll, probably later this year as I have to get the TOEFL done first.

[cookderosa]

I wonder if Coopersmith Career Consulting ( NCCRS approved, 50$ per credit) course Social History of Jewish Food (SOC-302) will work for natural science upper credits as Nutritional science.

Credit recommendation: In the upper division associate/baccalaureate degree category, 3 semester hours in Judaic Studies, Sociology, Anthropology, Jewish History, Religion, Nutritional Science, or as General Elective.

That's sociology. For nutrition to count as science, it needs the biology prefix.

[ladylearner]

Laughter,

Just wanted to offer my thoughts and a 6cr course recommendation.

Please be careful assuming what fits. It's a new calendar year and there may or may not have been changes. I would contact the Evaluations Team to confirm the use of Network Technology in the area of study. I offered the same advice to another forum member when I suggested he might possibly use the exam for CS credits. We just never know what changes/restrictions are made in a new calendar year. There have not been documented precedents that I've found that would substantiate the exam being used. Although as a CIS/CS? course I can't see why it shouldn't fit. The prefix CMP opens the door for anyone's interpretation it would have been so much easier if they just coded it CIS or COS. (shrugs) The exam has been discussed, but I have yet to see an evaluation posted that shows the course listed. I did a pretty intense search, maybe I missed it?

Anyway, when you want to appeal a decision you need to have facts to support your reasoning. If a precedent has not been set, or you can make a strong case that the course does in fact fit the degree concentration, the advising/registrar/evaluations department decision usually stands. Of course you can still challenge that decision by addressing an appeal to the Dean of the School. The Dean is the ultimate authority in such cases; at least this has been my experience at TESC.

Moving forward, I would recommend ENS-314 Global Environmental Change (6cr), you could take it at the same time as the capstone. ENS-314 has received excellent reviews from everone who' has taken the course. Do a search on this forum for member feedback. Most have advised taking DSST ENS-201 Environment and Humanity: Race to Save the Planet just after to take advantage of subject overlap.
As an FYI, there are actually three 6cr upper level courses at TESC, the other two are PSY-379 Social Psychology and HIS-356 War in American Society. I took the latter and it was great! They all have the same amount of written assignments as the 3cr courses although HIS-356 has a lot more reading (8 texts total, I only read the main text and 1 other, googled the rest). ENS314 and PSY379 both have one course text.

For music refer to FallingWaters posts on learning counts / PLA which provide a pathway to gaining U/L music credit. Links to her threads are below.

Music - PLA
Courses - http://www.degreeforum.net/general-educa...s-org.html
Process - http://www.degreeforum.net/general-educa...pdate.html


Good luck in your journey!

So happy to hear others share the joy of Learning Counts - $125 for 3 upper-level credits.

[ejcompere]

This is an expensive option so don't know if it will work for you... Berklee College of Music has online courses. A FEW of them are UL.