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Hello I'm new the forum here. I'm trying to configure a degree plan for a Bachelors Liberal Arts at Excelsior. I will be doing exams, clep, straighter line courses, and a few traditional classes. I just needed to know if I CLEP out if a course like Intro to Microeconomics would it count as a full filled requirement in electives and social science? Any help would be appreciated.
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No, unless you only need a total of 3 credits in those areas. For example The clep Analy & Interp. Lit is worth 6 credits if you needed 3 credits in Humanities and 3 credits in General electives it could fulfill both of those requirements.I hope this explains what you were asking
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12-31-2011, 05:18 PM
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Yes, at Excelsior, you can fulfill 2 requirements at the same time. For instance, if you have a depth (12 credits) in history, that would count as fulfilling the general education history/social science requirement; the rest of the credits would count toward the Arts & Science electives; plus it is one depth requirement. Just make sure that you have enough Arts & Science credits for your whole degree because you have to meet the minimum number required.
Edit: Sorry, I missed the "one class" part of the title. That would be harder but may not be impossible, depending on the situation. Unless you have a specific scenario in mind, let's assume that it counts once in your degree. First, Microeconomics would count toward a social science gen ed requirement. If you already have that, it would count toward Arts & Science electives. If you already have that, it would count toward free electives.
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NAP Wrote:Yes, at Excelsior, you can fulfill 2 requirements at the same time. For instance, if you have a depth (12 credits) in history, that would count as fulfilling the general education history/social science requirement; the rest of the credits would count toward the Arts & Science electives; plus it is one depth requirement. Just make sure that you have enough Arts & Science credits for your whole degree because you have to meet the minimum number required.
Edit: Sorry, I missed the "one class" part of the title. That would be harder but may not be impossible, depending on the situation. Unless you have a specific scenario in mind, let's assume that it counts once in your degree. First, Microeconomics would count toward a social science gen ed requirement. If you already have that, it would count toward Arts & Science electives. If you already have that, it would count toward free electives.
But not simultaneously, right? That is how I interpreted OP's question.
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dcan Wrote:But not simultaneously, right? That is how I interpreted OP's question.
When I first saw the question, I was thinking of the note on the degree charts that says "Credits used to satisfy requirements in one area may simultaneously satisfy requirements in another area." EC wants to have the degrees be as efficient as possible.
In this case and assuming there is not an economics depth, Microeconomics would probably go toward the area of greatest need. If the social science/history section of gen ed requirements is not met, it would go there first. If it is not needed there, it would be used in the Arts & Science electives. Which ever way it is used, it can only count as 3 credits and not 6 for the whole degree.
Sorry for causing confusion.
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I am just beginning my journey. Ultimately I want to get a BALS from either Excelsior or TESC. Just trying to structure a degree plan. Its harder than I thought.
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dCan has done a great service in collecting a lot of degree plans in one place here
TESC Degree Plans - Degree Forum Wiki
It might help you to look at them
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01-01-2012, 11:07 PM
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Thanks for the kind words Lindagerr. I definitely hope it helps others.
WannaBNurseJ Wrote:I am just beginning my journey. Ultimately I want to get a BALS from either Excelsior or TESC. Just trying to structure a degree plan. Its harder than I thought.
This can be a very tough and daunting path to follow when you first start out. You get really excited reading the success stories and just sucking up the excitement from others here and think you can dive right in, and suddenly you hit all kinds of weird brick walls because the learning curve can be very steep when you first start out. I spent a couple of months here asking lots of questions and researching colleges and degree plans on my own before pulling the trigger with TESC. Choosing a degree path is not something that should be rushed unless absolutely necessary. Far better for you to take a bit more time now and get it right.
From my experience the problem you are likely facing is three-fold:
1. Understanding how colleges work and what the different policies are.
2. Deciding on a college and degree.
3. Deciding how to fill up the chosen degree plan (what tests, classes, etc to take).
This forum excels in helping you with all three, but I think it is vitally important to break the process out into at least the above three areas so you can eat the whole elephant one bite at a time. Otherwise you can quickly get overwhelmed dashing from one topic to another willy-nilly.
After I'd been here about six weeks, with many hours of research under my belt (meaning reading hundreds of posts here and comparing the Big 3 schools) I finally sat down and put together a spreadsheet with my degree plan. It took me about eight hours one Saturday to put it together. From what I've read that is not uncommon. You really have to put a lot of thought into it if you are new to the game, because the learning curve is fairly steep for newbies. But so far my plan hasn't deviated much at all in the past eight months or so.
The advantage to this approach is that pretty soon you will run circles around your "peers" sitting in desks who don't know jack about how colleges work and just take whatever plan is spoon-fed to them by their advisors. And when they graduate with $50,000 in debt you can afford to buy them a lot of beer and laugh all the way to the bank.
Note the link Lindagerr provided is to TESC degree plans. There are one or two Excelsior plans on the site as well. No COSC plans yet but you can just look up user burbuja as the resident expert on COSC.
Here's a few more helpful pages from the wiki to get you started:
- The Basic Approach - Degree Forum Wiki
- Common Terms - Degree Forum Wiki
- Common Misconceptions - Degree Forum Wiki
- Sources of Credit - Degree Forum Wiki
- Accreditation - Degree Forum Wiki
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Complete: TESU BA Computer Science
2011-2013 completed all BSBA CIS requirements except 4 gen eds.
2013 switched major to CS, then took a couple years off suddenly.
2015-2017 finished the CS.
CCAF: AAS Comp Sci
CLEP (10): A&I Lit, College Composition Modular, College Math, Financial Accounting, Marketing, Management, Microecon, Sociology, Psychology, Info Systems
DSST (4): Public Speaking, Business Ethics, Finance, MIS
ALEKS (3): College Algebra, Trig, Stats
UMUC (3): Comparative programming languages, Signal & Image Processing, Analysis of Algorithms
TESU (11): English Comp, Business Law, Macroecon, Managerial Accounting, Strategic Mgmt (BSBA Capstone), C++, Data Structures, Calc I/II, Discrete Math, BA Capstone
Warning: BA Capstone is a thesis, mine was 72 pages about a cryptography topic
Wife pursuing Public Admin cert via CSU.
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