07-21-2011, 02:01 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-21-2011, 02:26 PM by burbuja0512.)
Lol.. too funny. I am sorry I just have to laugh about the CLEP comment. I do see that some professors and some students are threatened by testing. It takes their profession and all of the time that they spent in school and calls it into question. After all, do you need them if you can self-teach? I can totally understand why it would make someone nervous or uncomfortable, but if the point of college is to learn - why do you need to spend hours in a classroom to do it?
I don't really talk about testing to many people anymore unless I think that they would really understand. People just think that it sounds so easy or that it's a way to cheat, or that a degree with CLEP isn't valid. However, if anyone does ask me, I will use the foreign language CLEP as an example. As I just mentioned in another thread, I lived in Mexico for 6 years. When I speak Spanish, people look at this blond-haired blue eyed gringa in awe and wonder how I learned Spanish so well. Yet I have never taken a Spanish class beyond high school. Should I be forced to sit through two years of basic Spanish classes just to prove that I know the language? No way! That would be a waste of time and money for me and would irritate classmates that were trying to learn. I don't think that there is a person out there that would doubt the validity of a CLEP in this situation.
So... if you think about the foreign language concept and apply it to any other subject, it's really all the same. You're still learning the material and passing something that's equivalent to a final exam on the topic. If you've already taken a class on the topic and failed, it's still the same concept. Regardless of your score in that class, you need to have the knowledge to pass the exam. Most people don't fail a class based on stupidity or total lack of understanding in the topic. Most adults fail because of other life obligations, so if you learn the material, it shouldn't be cheating at all!
LOL... oh well, let the people who don't understand CLEP and DSST spend thousands of dollars in the classroom. There's nothing wrong with that and assuming that they do the work and have a good teacher, they'll learn and will get their money's worth.
I don't really talk about testing to many people anymore unless I think that they would really understand. People just think that it sounds so easy or that it's a way to cheat, or that a degree with CLEP isn't valid. However, if anyone does ask me, I will use the foreign language CLEP as an example. As I just mentioned in another thread, I lived in Mexico for 6 years. When I speak Spanish, people look at this blond-haired blue eyed gringa in awe and wonder how I learned Spanish so well. Yet I have never taken a Spanish class beyond high school. Should I be forced to sit through two years of basic Spanish classes just to prove that I know the language? No way! That would be a waste of time and money for me and would irritate classmates that were trying to learn. I don't think that there is a person out there that would doubt the validity of a CLEP in this situation.
So... if you think about the foreign language concept and apply it to any other subject, it's really all the same. You're still learning the material and passing something that's equivalent to a final exam on the topic. If you've already taken a class on the topic and failed, it's still the same concept. Regardless of your score in that class, you need to have the knowledge to pass the exam. Most people don't fail a class based on stupidity or total lack of understanding in the topic. Most adults fail because of other life obligations, so if you learn the material, it shouldn't be cheating at all!
LOL... oh well, let the people who don't understand CLEP and DSST spend thousands of dollars in the classroom. There's nothing wrong with that and assuming that they do the work and have a good teacher, they'll learn and will get their money's worth.
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ISSA Certified Nutritionist
COSC BS, Business Admin
My BS Credits:
Spanish 80 | Humanities 67 | A & I Lit 72 | Sub Abuse 452 | Bus Ethics 445 | Tech Writ 62 | Math 53 | HTYH 454 | Am. Govt 65 | Env & Humanity 64 | Marketing 65 | Micro 61| Mgmt 63| Org Behavior 65| MIS 446|Computing 432 | BL II 61 | M&B 50 | Finance 411 | Supervision 437| Intro Bus. 439| Law Enforcement 63| SL: Accounting I B | Accounting II C+| Macro A | ECE: Labor Relations A | Capstone: A| FEMA PDS Cert