Burnt Out! Please Help me with a TESC Liberal Studies Roadmap!!

[cooperalex2004]

Yeah this evaluation was completed earlier this year before the capstone was required. What I have the hardest time with is figuring out which tests fit into which area to meet requirements. TESC is less than helpful unless you've already invested your $3000 first. Can you please just tell me which tests I need to take to possibly apply and graduate?

Thanks!

Check out the post I updated with the list of courses you can take. Make sure you don't take anything that could be considered an overlap in either name, subject content, or course code because they will duplicate credit. If you duplicate you won't get six credits instead of three, they'll simply block three from being used. Even though you ran the evaluation already, since you'd be switching majors since you applied you might still have to take the capstone course, you'd have to ask them that question to know for sure.

[cooperalex2004]

Yeah this evaluation was completed earlier this year before the capstone was required. What I have the hardest time with is figuring out which tests fit into which area to meet requirements.

This is perfect! Thank you so much! This is seriously going to help me finish quickly! Thank you for your help!

The other thing that might help is a list of areas which are included as general education electives. That, along with a bunch of other details on how the process of evaluations work can be found in a guide most people have never seen:

http://www.tesc.edu/documents/Degree_Pla..._12.09.pdf

See page 12 for a list of general education areas, any course in those areas will fit your degree (just watch that you meet UL requirements and other limits mentioned in the evaluation).

[publius2k4]

So if I read correctly and applied the correct courses in the right spots, should this be a viable path to complete my degree?:

11 Upper Level General Education:
REL-405-DE Introduction to World Religions 400 3
SOS-305-DE Substance Abuse 400 3
HIS-386-DE Rise and Fall of the Soviet Union 45 3
HIS-351-DE A History of the Vietnam War 44 3
(ALL DSST, total of 12 credits)

18 Any Level General Education:
HIS-113-CE History of the United States I: Early Colonization to 1877 50 3 (CLEP)
LIT-111/112-CE American Literature 50 6 (CLEP)
LIT-208/209-CE English Literature (6) 50 6 (CLEP)
COS-101-DE Introduction to Computing 400 3 (DSST)

15 General Education
LIT-291/292-CE Analyzing and Interpreting Literature 50 6 (CLEP)
HIS-114-CE History of the United States II: 1865 to the Present 50 3 (CLEP)
PSY-211-CE Human Growth and Development 50 3 (CLEP)
SOC-101-CE Introductory Sociology 50 3 (CLEP)


Plus the Capstone course.

[cooperalex2004]

Yes, that should do it. Make sure you give yourself credit for any other courses which were missing from that old eval and if you feel any of the "other courses" might fit a general education area note that you can get the evaluation changed. Once you get really close go ahead and pay the enrollment fee, schedule an appointment with an advisor, and make sure you know what is left. You don't want to take any extra courses since you already have plenty of those business ones that can't be used. I'd say take a few more tests and then pay the fee, you get a year of enrollment for the money charged and you can get the remaining courses "planned in" so that everything fits and you've got a bulletproof plan (as long as you pass the courses).

Good luck and welcome to TESC.

[publius2k4]

You're a lifesaver. Thank you very much for your help!

[AlbaTiVo]

With so many business credits can you post what their system gives you when you select BSBA General Management? That may be even closer than the liberal studies degree.

[publius2k4]

With so many business credits can you post what their system gives you when you select BSBA General Management? That may be even closer than the liberal studies degree.

I) 1: General Education (60sh)
Credits: 42.99
Complete all 9 subrequirements:
I) A: English Comp
> Complete one full year of English Composition with a grade

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> of C or better.
Credits: 2
GPA Achieved/Needed: none / 2.000
N) Group 1
ENC-101 English Composition I________________________ 1 course needed

ENC-102 English Composition II_______________________ 1 course needed
I) Group 2
ENC-103 English Comp.: 1st Quarter. 04/30/11 CR 2 *TE
ENC-104 English Comp.: 2nd Quarter___________________ 1 course needed
ENC-105 English Comp.: 3rd Quarter___________________ 1 course needed

C) B: Mgrl/Bus Communs
> Complete 3 semester hours in managerial communications or
> business communications.
> MAN-373
COM-300 Intro. to Business Commun.. 10/31/11 CR 3 *TE

C) C: Humanities Electives
> Complete 9 semester hours from humanities; minimum 2 de-
> partments required.
Credits: 10
PHI-285 Ethics in Business......... 04/30/11 CR 3 *TE
PHI-199 Spec. Stud. in Selected Top 04/30/11 CR 3 *TE
PHI-286 Contemporary Ethics........ 02/28/05 B 2 *TE
HUM-101 Intro Hum I: Philos. Though 10/31/11 CR 2 *TE

N) D: Macro/Microeconomics
> Complete one full year of economics (micro/macroeconomics)
Credits: 0
N) Group 1
ECO-111 Macroeconomics_______________________________ 1 course needed
ECO-112 Microeconomics_______________________________ 1 course needed
N) Group 2
ECO-113 Basic Economics______________________________ 1 course needed
ECO-114 Macroeconomics_______________________________ 1 course needed
ECO-115 Microeconomics_______________________________ 1 course needed

C) E: Social Sciences
> Complete 6 semester hours from the social sciences with
> the exception of economics.
Credits: 6.66
POS-110 American Government........ 12/07/04 A 3.33 *TE
PSY-101 Introduction to Psychology. 02/28/05 C 3.33 *TE

N) F: Precalculus
> Take 3 semester hours of Quantitative Business Analysis or
> Precalculus. Students who have completed College Algebra
> should take MAT-129 to avoid duplication of credit.
____________________________________________________ 3 credits needed

C) G: Statistics
> Complete 3 semester hours in Principles of Statistics.
STA-201 Principles of Statistics... 04/30/11 CR 3 *TE

C) H: Natural Sci/Math
> Complete 3 semester hours from Natural Sciences Department;
> except the mathematics department.

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NAS-199 Spec. Stud. in Selected Top 10/31/11 CR 4 *TE

I) I: General Educ Elects
> Complete 21 semester hours in humanities, social sciences
> and natural sciences/mathematics (any combination).
Credits: 14.33 Required: 21 Remaining: 6.67
MAT-121 College Algebra............ 04/30/11 CR 3.00 *TE
HIS-102 Western Civilization II.... 12/07/04 C 3.33 *TE
ECO-100 Basic Economics............ 10/31/11 CR 4.00 *TE
NAS-101 Natural Sciences I......... 04/30/11 CR 4.00 *TE
_________________________________________________ 6.67 credits needed
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I) 2: Core (27sh)
Credits: 17.33
Complete all 8 subrequirements:
I) A: Intr Finl/Mgrl Acctg
> Complete one full year of Introductory/Principles of
> Accounting (Introduction to Financial Accounting and Intro-
> duction to Managerial Accounting)
Credits: 2
I) Group 1
ACC-101 Prin. of Finl Acctg........ 10/31/11 CR 2 *TE
ACC-102 Prin. of Mgrl Acctg__________________________ 1 course needed
N) Group 2
___________________________________________________________ 6 credits

C) B: Business Law
> Complete 3 semester hours of Business Law.
LAW-201 Business Law............... 04/30/11 CR 6 *TE

N) C: Compu Lit/Intr CIS
> Complete 3 hours in an introduction to information systems,
> introduction to computers, computer literacy, or an intro-
> ductory computing course with applications such as word pro-
> cessing, spreadsheets, and databases.
____________________________________________________ 3 credits needed

I) D: Princ of Finance
> Complete 3 semester hours of Principles of Finance.
FIN-301 Principles of Finance...... 10/31/11 CR 2 *TE
_____________________________________________________ 1 credit needed

C) E: Prins of Management
> Complete 3 semester hours of Principles of Management.
MAN-301 Principles of Management... 04/30/11 CR 4 *TE

C) F: Intro to Marketing
> Complete 3 semester hours of Introduction to Marketing.
MAR-301 Introduction to Marketing.. 08/01/05 C 3.33 *TE

N) G: Bus in Soc/Int'l Mgt
> Complete 3 semester hours of business in society, introduc-
> tion to international business, international management or
> international marketing.
____________________________________________________ 3 credits needed

N) H: Strategic Management

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> Complete 3 semester hours in Strategic Management or
> Business Policy.
_____________________________________________________ 1 course needed
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I) 3: General Management Specialization (18sh)
Credits: 7.33
GPA Achieved/Needed: 2.000 / 2.000
Complete both subrequirements:
I) A: GMS Required Areas
> Complete one three semester hour course in three of the
> following four areas: Accounting, Finance, Management,
> Marketing. These courses must be above the introductory
> level.
Credits: 7.33
N) Group 1
___________________________________________________________ 3 credits
N) Group 2
___________________________________________________________ 3 credits
C) Group 3

MAN-311 Organizational Behavior.... 04/30/11 CR 4 *TE
C) Group 4
MAR-310 Principles of Sales........ 08/01/05 C 3.33 *TE

N) B: GMS Elective Area
> Complete three more 3 semester hour courses from any
> assortment of the four areas above, using courses above the
> introductory level.
____________________________________________________ 9 credits needed
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I) 4: Business Electives (9sh)
> Complete 9 sh from accounting, banking, business, computer
> applications, computer information systems, finance,
> management, hotel/motel/restaurant management, insurance,
> operations management, public administration, real
> estate, law, marketing, and retailing management,
> fundraising.
Credits: 5.33 Required: 9 Remaining: 3.67
BUS-161 Business Mathematics....... 08/01/05 B 3.33 *TE
CMP-202 Foundation of Info. Tech... 10/31/11 CR 2.00 *TE
_________________________________________________ 3.67 credits needed
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C) 5: Free Electives (6sh)
> Complete 6 semester hours.
Credits: 6
FEL-199 Spec. Stud. in Selected Top 04/30/11 CR 2 *TE
EDM-209 Effective Communications... 10/01/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-207 Leadership and Influence... 10/01/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-126 State Disaster Management.. 10/02/11 CR 1 *NE
EDM-203 Exercise Design............ 10/01/11 CR 1 *NE
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OTHER COURSES: Registered Earned
Credits Credits
EDM-101............. 10/01/11 CR 1.00 1.00 *NE
Emer.Prog.Mgr.Orient.To Posit.
DEV-001............. 04/30/11 CR 0.00 0.00 *RI *TE
Other Developmental Course
MAN-301............. 10/31/11 CR 3.00 3.00 *RI *TE

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Principles of Management
(Credits in parentheses are anticipated earned)

[AlbaTiVo]

That's a very similar number of credits to what you need for liberal studies, but it was worth a look

[publius2k4]

That's a very similar number of credits to what you need for liberal studies, but it was worth a look

Yeah it seems like the Liberal Studies degree would be a little easier to complete. Thanks, though!

[publius2k4]

I think I have it figured out now....Plugging in the courses I need into the evaluation is actually quite easy. Once I factor in the courses I've taken since the evaluation, I think my evaluation would look something like this after paying the registration fee and planning what tests I'd like to take (which by my best guess, should only be 10):

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> of C or better.
Credits: 2
GPA Achieved/Needed: none / 2.000
C) Group 1
ENC-101 English Composition I CLEP College Composition
ENC-102 English Composition II CLEP College Composition

I) B: Humanities
> Complete 12 semester hours of Humanities, including at
> least two subject areas.
Credits: 13
PHI-199 Spec. Stud. in Selected Top 04/30/11 CR 3 *TE
HUM-101 Intro Hum I: Philos. Though 10/31/11 CR 2 *TE
PHI-285 Ethics in Business......... 04/30/11 CR 3 *TE
PHI-286 Contemporary Ethics........ 02/28/05 B 2 *TE

Planned
HIS-113-CE History of the United States I: Early Colonization to 1877 50 3
__________________________________________________________________2 Credits Needed
C) C: Social Sciences
> Complete 12 semester hours in the Social Sciences,
> including at least two subject areas.
Credits: 13.99
ECO-100 Basic Economics............ 10/31/11 CR 4.00 *TE
PSY-101 Introduction to Psychology. 02/28/05 C 3.33 *TE
POS-110 American Government........ 12/07/04 A 3.33 *TE
HIS-102 Western Civilization II.... 12/07/04 C 3.33 *TE

C) D: Mathematics
> Complete a 3 semester hour college-level Mathematics
> course.
MAT-121 College Algebra............ 04/30/11 CR 3 *TE

C) E: Natural Sciences
> Complete 9 semester hours in the Natural Sciences,
> including at least two subject areas.
Credits: 11
NAS-199 Spec. Stud. in Selected Top 10/31/11 CR 4 *TE
NAS-101 Natural Sciences I......... 04/30/11 CR 4 *TE
STA-201 Principles of Statistics... 04/30/11 CR 3 *TE
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N) 2: BA General Education Electives (18 SH)
> Complete 18 semester hours from any of the following
> General Education subjects: Humanities, Social Sciences,
> Natural Sciences or Mathematics.

Planned
SOS-101/102-CE Social Sciences and History (General) 50 6 (CLEP)
LIT-111/112-CE American Literature 50 6 (CLEP)
LIT-208/209-CE English Literature (6) 50 6 (CLEP)___________________ _ 18 credits needed
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I) 3: BA Liberal Studies (33 Sh)
Credits: 4
GPA Achieved/Needed: none / 2.000
Complete both subrequirements:
I) A: Lbrl Stds 18 upr lvl
> Complete 18 semester hours of 300 and 400 level Liberal
> Studies coursework. At least TWO or more different areas
> must be included to provide breadth of knowledge in the

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> Liberal Studies Area (e.g., AREA I: Humanities courses:
> 18 semester hours; AREA II: Social Sciences courses: 9
> semester hours; AREA III: Natural Sciences courses: 6
> semester hours). The two areas can span the 15 credit and
> 18 credit requirements. **It is highly recommended that
> course LIB-495 be completed to satisfy 3 semester hours of
> this requirement.**
MAN-311 Organizational Behavior.... 04/30/11 CR 4 *TE
COM-300 Intro. to Business Commun.. 10/31/11 CR 3 *TE
MAN-312 Advanced Organizational Behavior... CR 4 *TE

Planned
REL-405-DE Introduction to World Religions 400 3 (DSST)
SOS-305-DE Substance Abuse 400 3 (DSST)
HIS-351-DE A History of the Vietnam War 44 3 (DSST)
__________________________________________________ _ 8 credits needed

N) B: Liberal Studies 15
> Complete 15 semester hours of Liberal Studies coursework. A

> maximum of 6 credits can be at the 100 level.

Planned
LIT-291/292-CE Analyzing and Interpreting Literature 50 6 (CLEP)
MAT-102/103-CE College Mathematics (General) 50 6
PSY-211-CE Human Growth and Development 50 3 (CLEP)
__________________________________________________ _ 15 credits needed
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C) 4: BA Free Electives (27 SH)
> Complete 27 semester hours of Free Electives.
Credits: 27.99
BUS-161 Business Mathematics....... 08/01/05 B 3.33 *TE
MAR-310 Principles of Sales........ 08/01/05 C 3.33 *TE
MAR-301 Introduction to Marketing.. 08/01/05 C 3.33 *TE
MAN-301 Principles of Management... 04/30/11 CR 4.00 *TE
LAW-201 Business Law............... 04/30/11 CR 6.00 *TE
CMP-202 Foundation of Info. Tech... 10/31/11 CR 2.00 *TE
ACC-101 Prin. of Finl Acctg........ 10/31/11 CR 2.00 *TE
FIN-301 Principles of Finance...... 10/31/11 CR 2.00 *TE
FEL-199 Spec. Stud. in Selected Top 04/30/11 CR 2.00 *TE
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