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No, it doesn't void the first C. You still made it. TESU doesn't care, nor should you. If you make an A at your CC, it still becomes a CR when you transfer to TESU, same as the C from the other school.
Let's say you apply to graduate school. That C will still be counted when they compute your undergraduate GPA.
What's a 4.0 anyway? It sort of reminds me of being a valedictorian. http://time.com/money/4779223/valedictor...-up-wrong/ A students work for C students. http://www.richdad.com/Resources/Rich-Da...-fail.aspx
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(04-24-2018, 04:44 PM)clep3705 Wrote: No, it doesn't void the first C. You still made it.
Many schools will let you retake a course for a higher grade, and the old grade will not transfer.
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(04-24-2018, 04:40 PM)davewill Wrote: (04-24-2018, 01:21 PM)tripletmom Wrote: At my CC, my GPA is 4.0. The psych class from long ago comes in as a transfer credit. However, when I forward transcripts I have one GPA at 4.0, and the other with this lonely "C".
So I thought if I retook the class from my current CC, I could replace the transfer credit with a letter grade. This would void the first class essentially, keeping my overall GPA at a 4.0.
A grad school will insist on receiving all transcripts anyway, and will then proceed to calculate your GPA according to their own rules. They will not think anything of the "lonely C", especially if everything else is an "A". Just let it go. A lot of us have much worse on our transcripts than a "C" from a long time ago.
The way I always heard the old joke was:
Q: What do you call the guy who graduates last in his class at medical school?
A: Doctor. Thankyou! I couldn't remember how it goes.
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I am 52 years old and returned to school to earn a degree simply for personal gratification. The goal is to go to law school for advocacy work. This degree will not help me advance in my current position nor will I change jobs. I think the GPA would be important for law school, but more than that, a high GPA would serve as a personal success. It 's the over-achiever in me I guess. Oh well.
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Look at the policies of the original CC where you completed the course. They may have a way to remove the grade, but usually you have to retake the course there. I was looking into this recently, and one of the schools had a policy that they would replace the grade with the first attempt with an R and it would no longer factor into the GPO calculation.
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(04-24-2018, 09:35 PM)tripletmom Wrote: I am 52 years old and returned to school to earn a degree simply for personal gratification. The goal is to go to law school for advocacy work. This degree will not help me advance in my current position nor will I change jobs. I think the GPA would be important for law school, but more than that, a high GPA would serve as a personal success. It 's the over-achiever in me I guess. Oh well.
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Your GPA for law school is important, but it's not a case of being an over-achiever, it's a case of not understanding the way transfer credit and GPA are calculated for grad school. Respectfully, you can't erase the C except under 1 specific scenario - you would go back to your school where you earned the C and ask *if* they allow you to retake, will it override the C. They may say yes or no, some colleges have a forgivness policy for Ds and Fs, I expect they will say no, and that even when you retake the C at that college, that it would remain on your transcript.
So, you're looking at 3/120 credits. In order to achieve a higher GPA, you need to add graded credits to your transcript. Most of the time, students at TESU will use ungraded sources for their 100/200 level courses at a bare minimum - if you do that, then the "impact" of the C changes to 3/X
In other words- 3 out of some number. I'll use my own transcript as an example. I had ungraded (pass/fail) credits for 90 of my TESU credits and earned grades on my last 30. So, a single course held a weight of 3 out of 30.
For graduate school, it is likely that ALL of your graded credits - even those that TESU didn't bring in for a grade- will be calculated into one giant GPA.
In short, to raise your GPA, you need to take classes and earn good grades. The more good grades you earn, the more "watered down" that C will become. Before throwing tens of thousands of dollars at this problem, use a simple GPA calculator to check the math. See how much you need to achieve to move the needle- it's not a question of opinion, it's a question of whether or not you can actually do it with the courses you have left. Without posting all of you transcripts and grades, none of us can answer that for you. http://www.back2college.com/gpa.htm
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Even a forgiveness policy, if your CC allows for it, might not work. Some schools, like my CC, will allow you to retake and forgive the course for your GPA with the CC, but they leave the original failed course on the transcript with a line through it to indicate it's forgiven.
LSAC/Law School Admissions Council, which does the GPA calculation for all ABA approved law schools, specifically mentions that in the case of lined-through courses, they will include them in their GPA calculation even if your original school considers them forgiven.
Quote:Grades Excluded from Conversion
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- Those removed from the official transcript due to an institution’s academic forgiveness—only if the grade is not displayed on the transcript. A line drawn through course information or a grade does not eliminate the course from GPA calculation.
(via https://www.lsac.org/aboutlsac/policies/...marization)
So not only does your school have to have a forgiveness policy, they have to remove all traces of the course from your transcript as part of that policy. Some schools do this, some schools don't.
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(04-24-2018, 09:35 PM)tripletmom Wrote: I am 52 years old and returned to school to earn a degree simply for personal gratification. The goal is to go to law school for advocacy work. This degree will not help me advance in my current position nor will I change jobs. I think the GPA would be important for law school, but more than that, a high GPA would serve as a personal success. It 's the over-achiever in me I guess. Oh well.
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You'd be much better off spending the time and money to prepare for the LSAT; which will have a far greater impact on you're attmitance to law school than the the single C calculated into your GPA. I wish you great luck on your noble goal.
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