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(05-13-2021, 08:44 PM)TennisCoach Wrote: (05-13-2021, 07:20 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Hmm, you're looking at a double degree plan and my plan I linked you would work, the only thing you need to change is, the UL/LL requirements for the BALS to your language exams. I would focus on doing the BSBA General Management and prepare for the ACTFL exam for two of your languages. What languages do you know besides English? You need to know it really well to score Upper Level credits.
You should do a search for ACTFL and read through all the threads of info, basically you can transfer your entire BALS degree area of study with two language exams. Here's another link: TESU Transfer Policy: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...-Explained This is what I propose for you, about the same as I proposed for this person: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid332997 I will check the plan you proposed. Although I have very poor knowledge about all these stuff, but I'll do my best to decide and step in. I'm just stressed I start taking courses in SDC and Sophia that would 't count for the degree I'll choose or will delay my graduation, because I need to graduate the quickest way possible.
Yes, I do speak 3 other languages besides English. Arabic (Native), French (Fluent) and Spanish (Fluent).
Thanks for all the valuable info.
If you read my post #7 on this thread, there's a bunch of info on ACTFL. Rather than go with TESU, I would find out if UMPI would take these credits - you'll end up with a MUCH faster (not to mention cheaper) degree.
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(05-13-2021, 07:24 PM)dfrecore Wrote: I second UMPI, although I might suggest the BLS w/Management Minor instead - I think it will be easier to do, and give you more leeway in terms of being able to use your foreign language credits (the BLS allows for 62cr of Free Electives while the BABA w/Management allows for 18-21cr, and you have 18cr worth now).
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ACTFL exams are available and you can rack up a TON of credits (ACE-approved):
OPIc (Oral exam via computer) $108 each - scoring Advanced High/Superior is worth 6cr of LL and 6cr of UL, available in Spanish, French and Arabic
OPI (Oral exam via person) $165 each - scoring Advanced High/Superior is worth 6cr of LL and 6cr of UL, available in Spanish, French and Arabic
OPI and OPIc duplicate each other, you can choose one or the other
WPT (Written Proficiency Test) $108 each - scoring Advanced High/Superior is worth 6cr of LL and 6cr of UL, available in Spanish, French and Arabic
LPT (Listening Proficiency Test) $51 each - scoring Advanced Low/Superior is worth 6cr of LL, available in Spanish and French
RPT (Reading Proficiency Test) $51 each - scoring Advanced High/Superior is worth 6cr of LL, available in Spanish and French
I'd contact UMPI and ask about these exams, and if they'll give credit, I might send them the ACE National Guide pages for them - and then make sure they won't duplicate the CLEP exams, that they won't duplicate each other, and just generally what you can expect after taking these. It will be THE fastest way for you to earn credit, no ifs ands or buts. You could do the OPIc exams for all 3 languages tomorrow and get 36cr in a single day!
https://www.acenet.edu/National-Guide/Pa...Active%22)
https://www.languagetesting.com/certifications-tests
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Regarding your credit, you listed History I & II, but didn't say what kind of history that was. If it's US History, that would be great. Let us know.
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Regarding CLEP, you didn't say what your score was or when you took the exams, and that makes a difference on how many credits you get. I'd list that info.
Prior to 2/28/2015 - scoring 50 or higher on French was worth 6cr; scoring 59 or higher was worth 12cr
Starting 3/1/15, it was 6cr or 9cr for the same scores
Prior to 2/28/2015 - scoring 50 or higher on Spanish was worth 6cr; scoring 63 or higher was worth 12cr
Starting 3/1/15, it was 6cr or 9cr for the same scores
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If you opt for the BLS, assuming your history courses were US History, you'd only need to take Sophia's Art History, Environmental Science, and Intro to Ethics; Study.com's Biology w/lab and either World Religions or Sociology; and then get and easy 27cr of ACTFL Foreign Language credits - and you're ready to enroll at UMPI and start. Man wow! My brain is demolished lol (the good way) by the amount of info I'm getting, and since I'm total beginner in the matter it's a lot of home work, but really I appreciate all your efforts guys.
On the CLEP, I scored 80 in French and 78 in Spanish. Took them in November 2015 and February 2016 in a testing center in Texas.
Yes I meant US history 1 and 2.
So the plan on using the foreign languages exams into the BLS with UMPI would have to have a concentration?
And you mean I would be really to start the 30 cr required to take with them? It should 10 traditional courses? That's 2 semesters of 8 weeks each right?
Thank you very much
(05-13-2021, 07:20 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Hmm, you're looking at a double degree plan and my plan I linked you would work, the only thing you need to change is, the UL/LL requirements for the BALS to your language exams. I would focus on doing the BSBA General Management and prepare for the ACTFL exam for two of your languages. What languages do you know besides English? You need to know it really well to score Upper Level credits.
You should do a search for ACTFL and read through all the threads of info, basically you can transfer your entire BALS degree area of study with two language exams. Here's another link: TESU Transfer Policy: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...-Explained This is what I propose for you, about the same as I proposed for this person: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid332997 Please explain how I could transfer all required cr for area of study by taking 2 language ACTFL? And how could a double degree work? Which ones?
Thanks a lot for the clarification
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Ok guys, I just got a confirmation that a BLS would do the job for me, and if it's with a minor in Management then better.
I checked the ACTFL exams, but still didn't get a confirmation from UMPI and TESU that they could reward credits for ACTFL.
In terms of time/cost/degree plan, what program and school could be the best for my case using the ACTFL cr to use them in free electives (36 credits for 3 exams hopefully)?
Thank you all for the info, you guys do an amazing job.
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(05-14-2021, 09:15 AM)TennisCoach Wrote: Ok guys, I just got a confirmation that a BLS would do the job for me, and if it's with a minor in Management then better.
I checked the ACTFL exams, but still didn't get a confirmation from UMPI and TESU that they could reward credits for ACTFL.
In terms of time/cost/degree plan, what program and school could be the best for my case using the ACTFL cr to use them in free electives (36 credits for 3 exams hopefully)?
Thank you all for the info, you guys do an amazing job.
TESU will for sure take them, and they don't duplicate CLEP. But TESU will certainly not be your fastest option, nor will it be cheap.
I'd wait to hear back from UMPI.
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Since you're fluent in Spanish, you may want to consider taking Spanish 1 on InstantCert. That will definitely transfer to UMPI and then you're done with the foreign language requirement. You could probably complete the course over the weekend since you're fluent.
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(05-14-2021, 06:41 PM)ss20ts Wrote: Since you're fluent in Spanish, you may want to consider taking Spanish 1 on InstantCert. That will definitely transfer to UMPI and then you're done with the foreign language requirement. You could probably complete the course over the weekend since you're fluent.
They took the CLEP for both Spanish & French, UMPI should accept that for at least 3 credits, no?
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(05-14-2021, 07:15 PM)dbinghamjr Wrote: (05-14-2021, 06:41 PM)ss20ts Wrote: Since you're fluent in Spanish, you may want to consider taking Spanish 1 on InstantCert. That will definitely transfer to UMPI and then you're done with the foreign language requirement. You could probably complete the course over the weekend since you're fluent.
They took the CLEP for both Spanish & French, UMPI should accept that for at least 3 credits, no?
Depends on your score. If you're fluent, I'm sure your score was pretty good so you should be all set at UMPI.
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Basically, before you begin, you need to decide on the degree you want and the school you want it from. You can then start taking remaining credits to complete your degree of choice. If you haven't decided on the degree or school, my recommendation is that you can take courses that will transfer into the Big 3 AND the competency based education providers. So that means use more RA, ACE and skip NCCRS for now...
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Hello everyone, I just came to inform you that I've completed my degree at UMPI. I would like to thank all the people that have participated in this thread and help me with valuable information. Also, a special thanks to Rachel, ts20rs, akshir, and all others that have communicated with me privately and provided good advice. You are wonderful all of you and this forum is amazing. Thank you.
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Congratulations on your degree!
In progress:
TESU - BA Computer Science; BSBA CIS; ASNSM Math & CS; ASBA
Completed:
Pierpont - AAS BOG
Sophia (so many), The Institutes (old), Study.com (5 courses)
ASU: Human Origins, Astronomy, Intro Health & Wellness, Western Civilization, Computer Appls & Info Technology, Intro Programming
Strayer: CIS175, CIS111, WRK100, MAT210
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