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Re-thinking my engineering degree and just looking to complete something, so I can move on.
Even though I want out of IT, a Bachelor in anything now is better than another year of specialty classes to complete it.
So, anyway. I passed two more IT certs recently but like the 10 or so other certs, apparently not worth any college it seems.
Not listed anywhere on ACE or elsewhere, but I passed the EMC Information Storage and Management E10-001, as well as the E20-018 Cloud Architect Specialist.
Good news was, I didn't need to study much for either, I took the Cloud Architect spec exam at EMC World, missed it by 3 points. Studies just what I missed and passed it the next day.
If I attempted a prior learning assessment, would they consider these evidence of learning?
The list of classes I have had is 3 times longer, just not everything has a cert to go with it.
My list of certs are:
EMCISA
EMCCA
VMware VSP
VMware VTSP
VMware VCP
IBM AIX Specialist
Sun Solaris
Sun Cluster Admin
Sun Certified Instructor ( Solaris, SAN, Volume Manager )
Sun Workgroup Cert
Sun Enterprise Cert
Brocade BCFP
Fortinet FCNSA
Dell/Quest CSE (vdi)
Cisco SAN
Symantec / Veritas Cluster
Netapp Associate
ITIL
Novell CNA
DSST- General Anthropology - 52, Intro to Computer - 469, Technical Writing - 54, DSST Ethics in America - 59 (1996),
CLEP- Sociology -54, College Math - 550(1996), CLEP Principles of Management - 60 (1996)
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You need to look at TESC. They have a lot of proprietory professional credit evaluations. I don't know that much about your field. but please look here: Thomas Edison State College: Access all student publications, including the College Catalog and Advisement Degree Planning Handbook "Undergraduate Prospectus" pg 13+ I recently found 42! credits for my son's friend here that neither EC or COSC were prepared to recognize.
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TESC used to list on its website how many credits it would give for Microsoft certifications. They'll give credit for COMPTIA certifications, but they'll be labeled as CAP and counted as business credit instead of computer credit. Excelsior is probably the most generous in awarding credit for IT certifications.
Credit for IT Certifications - excelsior.edu
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MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
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DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
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Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
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I believe I read somewhere in the Excelsior handbook that the maximum credit from certs is 9, but don't quote me on that.
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UptonSinclair Wrote:I believe I read somewhere in the Excelsior handbook that the maximum credit from certs is 9, but don't quote me on that.
That would suck if true. TESC has no limit, but they're really picky about what they'll accept and how the credits will be applied. I haven't heard much about how Charter Oak applies IT certifications. The good thing is that TESC and Excelsior are partners with Learning Counts.
Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
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Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
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Yeah I would hope excelsior would accept more than 9. But then again, they accepted almost none of my CCAF credits for electronics, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Guess I should just call on tuesday and talk to a few counselors to see what they say.
DSST- General Anthropology - 52, Intro to Computer - 469, Technical Writing - 54, DSST Ethics in America - 59 (1996),
CLEP- Sociology -54, College Math - 550(1996), CLEP Principles of Management - 60 (1996)
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scorched Wrote:So, anyway. I passed two more IT certs recently but like the 10 or so other certs, apparently not worth any college it seems.
Why would they be? Most all certs you listed are very specific vendor based certs, they are essentially the exact opposite of what higher education is supposed to be about (broad horizon of knowledge).
FWIW, I am in IT, and I have hired for IT positions; I am always weary of folks who have 40375934594 certs on their resume. To me this always screams that the person is a cert hoarder but doesn't actually have any in-depth knowledge about a specific topic. Nothing against you personally, but my advice is to leave all the certs that are not relevant to a specific job you are applying for off of your resume. For example, unless you are sure that the company you are applying to is running Sun hardware I'd leave those certs off and potentially mention it during the interview.
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Certified does not mean qualified. One or two relevant certifications is good. Having every certification screams master of nothing.
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clep3705 Wrote:Certified does not mean qualified. One or two relevant certifications is good. Having every certification screams master of nothing.
I'll agree with this statement, but with a caveat - I've always looked at certifications as a way to get past the gatekeepers. In government contracting circles, often times the certification requirements are written into the positions. Recruiters are then doing specific searches on those certs. You could be the most qualified guy or gal out there, but you'll never get an interview without that alphabet after your last name. Also, those certs often equal a guaranteed pay bump when negotiating salary. That's the world I live in. Your side of the industry may be different.
To the OP - I feel your pain. My signature is sort of a running joke at Excelsior. All those certs and the only one that counted for credit was a Sec+. I mean, really... Sec+ but not the CISSP? It all boils down to ACE evaluation. A lot of the organizations have no desire to get evaluated by ACE. PMI (the org behind the PMP) has outright said they're not interested due to the hoops they would have to jump through. You can get credit for a PMP prep class given by Cheetah, but not for the actual cert itself. Crazy world, but meh..
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Chebasaz Wrote:I'll agree with this statement, but with a caveat - I've always looked at certifications as a way to get past the gatekeepers. In government contracting circles, often times the certification requirements are written into the positions. Recruiters are then doing specific searches on those certs. You could be the most qualified guy or gal out there, but you'll never get an interview without that alphabet after your last name. Also, those certs often equal a guaranteed pay bump when negotiating salary. That's the world I live in. Your side of the industry may be different.
To the OP - I feel your pain. My signature is sort of a running joke at Excelsior. All those certs and the only one that counted for credit was a Sec+. I mean, really... Sec+ but not the CISSP? It all boils down to ACE evaluation. A lot of the organizations have no desire to get evaluated by ACE. PMI (the org behind the PMP) has outright said they're not interested due to the hoops they would have to jump through. You can get credit for a PMP prep class given by Cheetah, but not for the actual cert itself. Crazy world, but meh..
I'm not in the IT field, but I have seen a lot of federal government contract jobs that require a specific certification(s). There is really no way of getting around it.
Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
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