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Almost 40 year old with foreign BA in English degree and Santa Monica College Cert
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Your Location: US citizen in DC, USA
Your Age: 38~39
What kind of degree do you want?:BS in Computer Science 
Current Regional Accredited Credits: 

School Name Total Credits: #
Santa Monica College
Certificate of Achievements, Computer programming, 28 credits.
including 3.3 from UCLA extension.

Class Name, Credits, Grade
Foreign BA in English from 2004 to 2008. 144 credits 

Current ACE, CLEP, or NCCRS Credits: N/A

Provider Total Credits: #

I would like to utilize above credits and gain some more necessary credits to obtain a BS in Computer Science.
Ideally this will help me to apply for MSc in Computer Science/Software engineering in European schools i.e. Ireland, Netherlands, Germany, or Sweden/Denmark, etc.
Thank you


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What kind of budget are you looking at? There are 2 schools with Comp Sci degrees that we recommend here: TESU and SNHU.

Germany is weird about some American degrees and the TESU might or might not count for further studies in Germany. I'm not sure about other European countries. SNHU is more expensive, but I think they have good standing with Anabin and you could use their degree for studies in Germany. (One of our German students can correct me if I'm wrong.)

With both schools, I believe that all you would need to complete would be the courses in the major, not the general education or elective credits.
In progress:
TESU - BA Computer Science; BSBA CIS; ASNSM Math & CS; ASBA

Completed:
Pierpont - AAS BOG
Sophia (so many), The Institutes (old), Study.com (5 courses)
ASU: Human Origins, Astronomy, Intro Health & Wellness, Western Civilization, Computer Appls & Info Technology, Intro Programming
Strayer: CIS175, CIS111, WRK100, MAT210
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(07-09-2023, 10:14 AM)rachel83az Wrote: What kind of budget are you looking at? There are 2 schools with Comp Sci degrees that we recommend here: TESU and SNHU.

Germany is weird about some American degrees and the TESU might or might not count for further studies in Germany. I'm not sure about other European countries. SNHU is more expensive, but I think they have good standing with Anabin and you could use their degree for studies in Germany. (One of our German students can correct me if I'm wrong.)

With both schools, I believe that all you would need to complete would be the courses in the major, not the general education or elective credits.

I have two plans: to complete it within $5000 and if it takes more and longer, save up for $10,000 to achieve it.
I will look into the TESU and SNHU options.
Thank you so much!
What if for whatever reason, my BA degree can not be transferred or not sufficient to fulfill the GE requirements? Shall I also prepare the route from Sophia -> UMIP?
Thanks again.
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@KMcLean, Welcome to the board, weird fonts you've got there, I'll clear that out for you... It's great providing very basic details in the template to get the ball rolling, having said that, it would be much better if you follow the last post addendum which you missed here, please add details of your budget, commitments, etc: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...Area-works
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Why do you want to get your MSc in European schools as opposed to US schools?
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We know for sure that TESU will count your first bachelor's as meeting your RA requirements, and waive all GE/cornerstone requirements. So you would only need 45cr in the major, all of which can be done via alt-credit, and it would cost you about $5300 for the capstone, including all fees. OR $4300 if you wanted to do a single FT/FR 15cr term.

I can also see that with the courses you have listed, you only need 27cr at TESU; there may be some other things you didn't list from your previous BA that would transfer over, as well as the UCLA extension course (was it UL? can it be used to meet a requirement? you'd have to list it to know).

Remaining at TESU:
Calculus (Sophia or SDC)
MATH 108: Discrete Math (SDC)
COMPSCI 105: Intro to Operating Systems (SDC)
COMPSCI 306: Computer Architecture (SDC-UL)
BUS 303: Management Info Systems (SDC-UL)
COMPSCI 302: Systems Analysis & Design (SDC-UL)
COMPSCI 303: Database Management (SDC-UL)
CS302: Software Engineering (Saylor-UL)
LIB-495: Liberal Studies Capstone (TESU-UL)
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I'm going to assume that SNHU will be the same about the 2nd degree, meaning you don't need the GE or Free Electives, leaving you with 69cr to complete (and you'll have to take at least 30cr at the school).

The tricky part will be to see which credits you can take at SDC - if any - to meet any of these requirements. If you can't, then it's going to be quite expensive to get this degree.

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Another option might be WGU. Not sure about the Europe thing, or a master's degree, but it works in the US. And it won't cost a fortune to get.
TESU BSBA/HR 2018 - WVNCC BOG AAS 2017 - GGU Cert in Mgmt 2000
EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
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WGU doesn't give grades, only pass/fail, which could be limiting for some European universities. Plus, I think they're not accepted at all in Germany for academic purposes (though I could be wrong about that).

For SNHU, we do have a degree plan for their Comp Sci degree. You should be able to get it down to almost exactly 30 credits when starting from scratch. When starting with a prior degree, it should be even easier. The biggest downsides of SNHU are the higher cost + it takes at least 1 year, potentially 2, to complete the remaining 30 credits. They artificially limit how fast you can go.
In progress:
TESU - BA Computer Science; BSBA CIS; ASNSM Math & CS; ASBA

Completed:
Pierpont - AAS BOG
Sophia (so many), The Institutes (old), Study.com (5 courses)
ASU: Human Origins, Astronomy, Intro Health & Wellness, Western Civilization, Computer Appls & Info Technology, Intro Programming
Strayer: CIS175, CIS111, WRK100, MAT210
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(07-09-2023, 11:47 AM)dfrecore Wrote: Why do you want to get your MSc in European schools as opposed to US schools?
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We know for sure that TESU will count your first bachelor's as meeting your RA requirements, and waive all GE/cornerstone requirements.  So you would only need 45cr in the major, all of which can be done via alt-credit, and it would cost you about $5300 for the capstone, including all fees.  OR $4300 if you wanted to do a single FT/FR 15cr term.

I can also see that with the courses you have listed, you only need 27cr at TESU; there may be some other things you didn't list from your previous BA that would transfer over, as well as the UCLA extension course (was it UL? can it be used to meet a requirement? you'd have to list it to know).

Remaining at TESU:
Calculus (Sophia or SDC)
MATH 108: Discrete Math (SDC)
COMPSCI 105: Intro to Operating Systems (SDC)
COMPSCI 306: Computer Architecture (SDC-UL)
BUS 303: Management Info Systems (SDC-UL)
COMPSCI 302: Systems Analysis & Design (SDC-UL)
COMPSCI 303: Database Management (SDC-UL)
CS302: Software Engineering (Saylor-UL)
LIB-495: Liberal Studies Capstone (TESU-UL)
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I'm going to assume that SNHU will be the same about the 2nd degree, meaning you don't need the GE or Free Electives, leaving you with 69cr to complete (and you'll have to take at least 30cr at the school).

The tricky part will be to see which credits you can take at SDC - if any - to meet any of these requirements.  If you can't, then it's going to be quite expensive to get this degree.

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Another option might be WGU.  Not sure about the Europe thing, or a master's degree, but it works in the US. And it won't cost a fortune to get.

I would like to use that as an opportunity to work and live in EU for 5 years if possible. I am willing to take 2 years to complete a MS in CS in Ireland, Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark, or ideally Germany so I can work there.
My UCLA extension was below and I am not sure if it is UL.
Introduction to Statistical Reasoning  STATS XL 10
This course provides an introduction to statistical thinking and understanding, including strengths and limitations of basic experimental designs, graphical and numerical summaries of data, inference, and regression as a descriptive tool. Transferable for UC credit.


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(08-09-2023, 12:28 PM)KMcLean Wrote: My UCLA extension was below and I am not sure if it is UL.
Introduction to Statistical Reasoning  STATS XL 10

No, this course is not UL.
TESU BSBA/HR 2018 - WVNCC BOG AAS 2017 - GGU Cert in Mgmt 2000
EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
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I would like to start the process now.
Can someone who completed TESU degree give me a name to say thank you please?
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Just learned I have been admitted to GT OMSCS and UIUC MSCS via coursera.
Shall I just move on with these masters and not proceed with TESU BACS? Thank you.
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