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12-22-2024, 06:46 PM
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(12-22-2024, 04:10 PM)openair Wrote: (12-22-2024, 03:33 PM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: I doubt the ACLAS degree would be recognized as anything but non-accredited. This will probably be treated like a Spanish Propio degree. The verification service with Qualification Check of the ACLAS degree may serve as a validated/accredited Masters.
No, it won't be treated like a Spanish propio degree, as these are awarded by recognized Spanish universities. The school is not even close to that status. Qualification Check won't validate anything here. That's absurd.
What can you imagine the evaluation being for ACLAS then? I'm thinking non-accredited Masters. When I stated it would be treated like a Spanish propio degree, I meant that the evaluation itself may look similar with a different explanation of the degree status.
Qualification Check didn't state rather the degree is accredited or non-accredited so I was implying that without them distinguishing it, employers would treat ACLAS as a reputable school despite not being recognized by a US accreditor if they looked at the Qualification Check because the use of the service could imply that all schools listed are reputable. This service now that I think of it is similar to getting an apostille.
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(12-22-2024, 06:46 PM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: (12-22-2024, 04:10 PM)openair Wrote: (12-22-2024, 03:33 PM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: I doubt the ACLAS degree would be recognized as anything but non-accredited. This will probably be treated like a Spanish Propio degree. The verification service with Qualification Check of the ACLAS degree may serve as a validated/accredited Masters.
No, it won't be treated like a Spanish propio degree, as these are awarded by recognized Spanish universities. The school is not even close to that status. Qualification Check won't validate anything here. That's absurd.
What can you imagine the evaluation being for ACLAS then? I'm thinking non-accredited Masters. When I stated it would be treated like a Spanish propio degree, I meant that the evaluation itself may look similar with a different explanation of the degree status.
Qualification Check didn't state rather the degree is accredited or non-accredited so I was implying that without them distinguishing it, employers would treat ACLAS as a reputable school despite not being recognized by a US accreditor if they looked at the Qualification Check because the use of the service could imply that all schools listed are reputable. This service now that I think of it is similar to getting an apostille.
What evaluation? This is a school that claims an American address. Who's going to evaluate them? A non-American credential evaluation body? Still, the evaluation results would not look similar to a propio. Notice all the perks that propio degrees potentially get with select U.S. agencies; transfer credit, or even the mere recognition that the credential-issuing Spanish university is equivalent to a regionally accredited one, even if the credential isn't seen as worthy of evaluation for some reason. How do you imagine that ACLAS will fare in this area? Who's going to say that the ACLAS credential is issued by an accredited institution of any kind? Only someone who is deeply ignorant, perhaps an "employer [who would] treat ACLAS as a reputable school" based on a Qualification Check reference. This would be a form of deception based on ignorance of the true nature of things.
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(12-21-2024, 11:46 AM)inor Wrote: (12-21-2024, 11:18 AM)Hotdogman1 Wrote: The provided student email (student.cgcc.edu) goes to a cc in Oregon, Columbia Gorge Community College.
It also looks like the email format is incorrect:
"first initial, last name, last four digits of their student id, @student.cgcc.us (john.smith@student.cgcc.edu)" (https://www.cgcc.edu/ferpa)
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(123) 123-123 (My phone number only has 9 digits but it's not because it's fake, it's because you're making wild conclusions.) Perhaps, coincidentally, Newton John C. Newton is also a student at Columbia Gorge Community College
johnc.newton@student.cgcc.edu
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12-23-2024, 10:21 AM
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(12-22-2024, 07:06 PM)openair Wrote: (12-22-2024, 06:46 PM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: (12-22-2024, 04:10 PM)openair Wrote: (12-22-2024, 03:33 PM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: I doubt the ACLAS degree would be recognized as anything but non-accredited. This will probably be treated like a Spanish Propio degree. The verification service with Qualification Check of the ACLAS degree may serve as a validated/accredited Masters.
No, it won't be treated like a Spanish propio degree, as these are awarded by recognized Spanish universities. The school is not even close to that status. Qualification Check won't validate anything here. That's absurd.
What can you imagine the evaluation being for ACLAS then? I'm thinking non-accredited Masters. When I stated it would be treated like a Spanish propio degree, I meant that the evaluation itself may look similar with a different explanation of the degree status.
Qualification Check didn't state rather the degree is accredited or non-accredited so I was implying that without them distinguishing it, employers would treat ACLAS as a reputable school despite not being recognized by a US accreditor if they looked at the Qualification Check because the use of the service could imply that all schools listed are reputable. This service now that I think of it is similar to getting an apostille.
What evaluation? This is a school that claims an American address. Who's going to evaluate them? A non-American credential evaluation body? Still, the evaluation results would not look similar to a propio. Notice all the perks that propio degrees potentially get with select U.S. agencies; transfer credit, or even the mere recognition that the credential-issuing Spanish university is equivalent to a regionally accredited one, even if the credential isn't seen as worthy of evaluation for some reason. How do you imagine that ACLAS will fare in this area? Who's going to say that the ACLAS credential is issued by an accredited institution of any kind? Only someone who is deeply ignorant, perhaps an "employer [who would] treat ACLAS as a reputable school" based on a Qualification Check reference. This would be a form of deception based on ignorance of the true nature of things.
There is nothing to discuss without an example of degree evaluation by IEE.
without evidence, everything looks like a scam.
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12-23-2024, 02:06 PM
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(12-23-2024, 04:02 AM)johnc.newton Wrote: (12-21-2024, 11:46 AM)inor Wrote: (12-21-2024, 11:18 AM)Hotdogman1 Wrote: The provided student email (student.cgcc.edu) goes to a cc in Oregon, Columbia Gorge Community College.
It also looks like the email format is incorrect:
"first initial, last name, last four digits of their student id, @student.cgcc.us (john.smith@student.cgcc.edu)" (https://www.cgcc.edu/ferpa)
Sincerely,
Holmes Sherlock
ACLAS PHD in Professional Detective
(123) 123-123 (My phone number only has 9 digits but it's not because it's fake, it's because you're making wild conclusions.) Perhaps, coincidentally, Newton John C. Newton is also a student at Columbia Gorge Community College
johnc.newton@student.cgcc.edu Read the instructions and try again. The example provided by the school itself is incorrect. Your ID should be something like NJohnC0000@student.cgcc.edu.
Even disregarding that, remember that Newton is your first name and JohnC is your last name so you should have written newton.johnc@student.cgcc.edu.
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12-31-2024, 07:02 AM
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(12-18-2024, 02:52 AM)johnc.newton Wrote: It's important not to draw comparisons between ACLAS and prestigious institutions like Harvard or Stanford. The total cost at ACLAS is incredibly low at just $89, which is a stark contrast to the hundreds of thousands of dollars required for tuition at top-tier schools. One cannot expect the same level of international recognition and prestige from a program that is so affordable. It's unrealistic to expect premium quality at budget prices.
I was deeply moved when I read your defense of ACLAS against those who seem to be only trying to damage the school. I am also currently a student of ACLAS, so it hurts to read hurtful words against it. Thank you, brother, for defending our school, ACLAS.
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(12-31-2024, 07:02 AM)rlhan Wrote: (12-18-2024, 02:52 AM)johnc.newton Wrote: It's important not to draw comparisons between ACLAS and prestigious institutions like Harvard or Stanford. The total cost at ACLAS is incredibly low at just $89, which is a stark contrast to the hundreds of thousands of dollars required for tuition at top-tier schools. One cannot expect the same level of international recognition and prestige from a program that is so affordable. It's unrealistic to expect premium quality at budget prices.
I was deeply moved when I read your defense of ACLAS against those who seem to be only trying to damage the school. I am also currently a student of ACLAS, so it hurts to read hurtful words against it. Thank you, brother, for defending our school, ACLAS.
It must hurt to be a student at a school with an issued consumer alert ( https://gnpec.georgia.gov/student-resour...mer-alerts) in the state where it claims to be located. Hearing that this isn’t a legitimate place to get an education might not send the most positive vibes.
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Stay far, far away from this school. Looking at their documents, the school website has blatant ESL mistakes in almost every sentence, and they aren't even using American spelling. They're most likely trying to scam non-Americans into paying for an "American" education.
They claim on their blog that they have qualifications from:
" CPD (Continuing Professional Development)
QualificationCheck
Gaote Education Group"
GAOTE is probably run from Kenya or another African country. They only accept "Pesa Pal" (an African payment method) and "PayPal" as payment. Their site has a bunch of typos, punctuation and grammatical errors on its main page. Dig further into subpages on their site and you find ESL errors too. To get its "accreditation" all you have to do is pay them $350 a year and fill out a survey which includes the syllabus of your course and how many credit hours it takes... and then you self-evaluate how good your course is!! You do not even submit any curriculum or sample coursework: https://gaote.org/need-for-global-accred...f-courses/
Check out their FaceBook page to see the names of "institutions" buying the GAOTE accreditation. Several institutions are actually listed as buying the accreditation twice only 1-2 weeks after the previous purchase!: https://www.facebook.com/people/Global-A...cx_PH&_rdr
If you click on the profiles of the few people who claim to have graduated from the school, they are paid fake accounts. They may appear to be real people at first glance but a person who owns a T-shirt shop is not also going to be selling $500 professional divorce services while also trying to sell you a MySpace account while also praising Atlanta College of Liberal Arts and Sciences.
This school is one big scam. I have seen quite a lot of other scam accreditations and scam degrees aimed at English-speaking Africans too. It seems it's a big market.
(12-21-2024, 04:11 PM)cacoleman1983 Wrote: I thought all foreign credential evaluators in the USA exclude USA schools to be evaluated.
IEE evaluates American credentials for use in Canada. But you are correct, you can't get an IEE report for use in America done on an American school. Also, IEE can still evaluate something as an unaccredited non-degree or whathaveyou. Just being able to submit your document to them for an evaluation doesn't mean it will come back with a good result.
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