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ACE Credit explination
#1
Hello everyone. First I would like to say thank you for the information you all provide in this community. It is what has inspired me to decide to attempt this journey of navigating the labyrinth of the higher education system again. I have applied to TESU and I am most likely at this time most interested in the BALS program ( dependent on review of my transcripts). My last attempt at college was was about 15 years ago and  I was there more because I thought I had to be than because I wanted to. NOW I want that degree. funny how that works. My main reason for posting is to get information about ACE. I don't fully understand what I should be doing there. I have sent transcripts from the 3 colleges I attended years ago and the air force ( CCAF)  to TESU for review, but do I need to send transcripts to ACE as well? should I create and ACE account? I do plan on taking some CLEP/DSST test as soon as I can figure out how to nail down a solid degree plan/path forward.  Thank you for your help in advance, and I am looking forward to sharing with you as this adventure progresses.
#2
ACE is a body that approves courses for college credit. They are not a school (so no, you don't send transcripts to them). They are also a credit-banking service, so when you take an ACE-approved course, you should add it to your ACE transcript (so yes, you should open a free account with them).

Once you take any ACE courses, and have them added to your ACE transcript, you can then send that ACE transcript to any schools that will accept it (just like a regular school transcript).

If you post the courses you've taken here, I can make a degree plan for you showing where your credits will most likely apply. Separate them by school, put which type of school it is (CC, CCAF, or 4-yr school, and if it's semester or quarter based), and then list the courses including course #, course name, number of credits, and grade if less than a C. Try to make it clear which type of numbering system the school uses (for instance if it's a CC that lists all courses as 0-99 as developmental, and 100-299 as regular courses; or if it's a 4-yr school that does the above plus 300-499 are Upper Level courses - it's good to know).

TESU will take about a month to do your eval, I can do it in about 10 minutes.
TESU BSBA/HR 2018 - WVNCC BOG AAS 2017 - GGU Cert in Mgmt 2000
EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
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#3
(04-11-2018, 10:36 AM)dfrecore Wrote: ACE is a body that approves courses for college credit.  They are not a school (so no, you don't send transcripts to them).  They are also a credit-banking service, so when you take an ACE-approved course, you should add it to your ACE transcript (so yes, you should open a free account with them).

Once you take any ACE courses, and have them added to your ACE transcript, you can then send that ACE transcript to any schools that will accept it (just like a regular school transcript).

If you post the courses you've taken here, I can make a degree plan for you showing where your credits will most likely apply.  Separate them by school, put which type of school it is (CC, CCAF, or 4-yr school, and if it's semester or quarter based), and then list the courses including course #, course name, number of credits, and grade if less than a C.  Try to make it clear which type of numbering system the school uses (for instance if it's a CC that lists all courses as 0-99 as developmental, and 100-299 as regular courses; or if it's a 4-yr school that does the above plus 300-499 are Upper Level courses - it's good to know).

TESU will take about a month to do your eval, I can do it in about 10 minutes.

Wow, thanks for the quick reply. that helps clear things up. I will get my transcripts out today and post what I have. Thank you !
#4
(04-11-2018, 10:40 AM)smithgw@gmail.com Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 10:36 AM)dfrecore Wrote: ACE is a body that approves courses for college credit.  They are not a school (so no, you don't send transcripts to them).  They are also a credit-banking service, so when you take an ACE-approved course, you should add it to your ACE transcript (so yes, you should open a free account with them).

Once you take any ACE courses, and have them added to your ACE transcript, you can then send that ACE transcript to any schools that will accept it (just like a regular school transcript).

If you post the courses you've taken here, I can make a degree plan for you showing where your credits will most likely apply.  Separate them by school, put which type of school it is (CC, CCAF, or 4-yr school, and if it's semester or quarter based), and then list the courses including course #, course name, number of credits, and grade if less than a C.  Try to make it clear which type of numbering system the school uses (for instance if it's a CC that lists all courses as 0-99 as developmental, and 100-299 as regular courses; or if it's a 4-yr school that does the above plus 300-499 are Upper Level courses - it's good to know).

TESU will take about a month to do your eval, I can do it in about 10 minutes.

Wow, thanks for the quick reply. that helps clear things up. I will get my transcripts out today and post what I have. Thank you !


And to piggy back on Dfrecore's great explaination, ACE's purpose is to provide a transcript for your non-college learning. So, the big companies we talk about here and use a lot include Studycom, Straighterline, Sophia, Shmoop, etc and since those are NOT college, they fit under the umbrella of ACE credit (ACE "says" they are worth credit, and then a college decides whether or not they'll agree). Also in the ACE category are are a ton of professional certifications, licenses, and business training. Even the PADI scuba diving credential is "worth" ACE credit. You should browse their catalog and see if anything you may already have jumps out at you. If you have (or are in an industry that you could obtain) the credit, it might be very inexpensive and worth looking at. Pilot licenses, computer certifications, McDonald's manager training, and others are found in ACE's catalog. So, anything that is worth college credit according to ACE, but happened outside of a college, would go in your ACE transcript. Opening a transcript involves creating an account. If you don't use anything via ACE, then no reason to create an account.
#5
(04-11-2018, 10:36 AM)dfrecore Wrote: ACE is a body that approves courses for college credit.  They are not a school (so no, you don't send transcripts to them).  They are also a credit-banking service, so when you take an ACE-approved course, you should add it to your ACE transcript (so yes, you should open a free account with them).

Once you take any ACE courses, and have them added to your ACE transcript, you can then send that ACE transcript to any schools that will accept it (just like a regular school transcript).

If you post the courses you've taken here, I can make a degree plan for you showing where your credits will most likely apply.  Separate them by school, put which type of school it is (CC, CCAF, or 4-yr school, and if it's semester or quarter based), and then list the courses including course #, course name, number of credits, and grade if less than a C.  Try to make it clear which type of numbering system the school uses (for instance if it's a CC that lists all courses as 0-99 as developmental, and 100-299 as regular courses; or if it's a 4-yr school that does the above plus 300-499 are Upper Level courses - it's good to know).

TESU will take about a month to do your eval, I can do it in about 10 minutes.
Below is a list of the Credits I currently have as I best understand by looking at my transcript:

CCAF:

Phys Education/Wellness- 4.00

AMT1218 Airframe Sys/Components 25.00

AMT1219 ACFT Maint Fundamentals 3.00

AMT1229 Intro to ACFT Maintenance 5.00

....

Air Force Specialty Internship-Journeyman- 4.00

....

CMR2101 Automated Sys Operations- 4.00

CMR2102 Automated Sys Maintenance- 3.00

COM1404 COMM Network Equip Operator- 5.00

COM1466 Comm Security Analysis- 2.00

COM2736 Introduction to DSS- 5.00

ELT1105 General Maintenance TRNG- 5.00

ELT1106 Intro/Digital Electronics- 3.00

ELT1210 Basic Elect Princ/CKTS- 2.00

ELT1451 Fiber Optic CA INST/MAINT- 1.00

ELT1455 Communication System Theory- 1.00

...........................................................................

CC :

GOVT 2302 American Government - 3.00 Cr, Grade B

ENGL 1301 COMP/Rhetoric I - 3.00 Cr, Grade C

OFAD 1301 Beginning Keyboardin- 3.00 Cr, Grade C

...............................................................................

U. of Phoenix

GEN 300 Skills for Professional Development - 3.00 Cr, Grade C

MGT 330 Management Theory Practice and Application - 3.00 Cr, Grade B-

MGT 331 Organizational Behavior - 3.00 Cr, Grade C+

MGT 350 Critical Thinking Strategies in Decision Making - 3.00 Cr, Grade C

...........

A few notes: While in the Air Force I had two Jobs. First was an Aircract Crew Chief ( Mechanic) and those credits are noted by the AMT designator. Second job was Communications-Computer Systems Controls and those credits are designated by the CRM, COM, and ELT courses. I also have an A+ for whatever that might be worth credit wise. As I mentioned in my previous post I never really did well in college, and was there only because I though I had to be, but was an honor grad in my communications course in the air force which was far more difficult. I am committed now to getting this done, and want to say thanks in advance for your help. This forum is awesome! 

smithgw
#6
(04-11-2018, 02:55 PM)smithgw Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 10:36 AM)dfrecore Wrote: ACE is a body that approves courses for college credit.  They are not a school (so no, you don't send transcripts to them).  They are also a credit-banking service, so when you take an ACE-approved course, you should add it to your ACE transcript (so yes, you should open a free account with them).

Once you take any ACE courses, and have them added to your ACE transcript, you can then send that ACE transcript to any schools that will accept it (just like a regular school transcript).

If you post the courses you've taken here, I can make a degree plan for you showing where your credits will most likely apply.  Separate them by school, put which type of school it is (CC, CCAF, or 4-yr school, and if it's semester or quarter based), and then list the courses including course #, course name, number of credits, and grade if less than a C.  Try to make it clear which type of numbering system the school uses (for instance if it's a CC that lists all courses as 0-99 as developmental, and 100-299 as regular courses; or if it's a 4-yr school that does the above plus 300-499 are Upper Level courses - it's good to know).

TESU will take about a month to do your eval, I can do it in about 10 minutes.
Below is a list of the Credits I currently have as I best understand by looking at my transcript:

CCAF:

Phys Education/Wellness- 4.00

AMT1218 Airframe Sys/Components 25.00

AMT1219 ACFT Maint Fundamentals 3.00

AMT1229 Intro to ACFT Maintenance 5.00

....

Air Force Specialty Internship-Journeyman- 4.00

....

CMR2101 Automated Sys Operations- 4.00

CMR2102 Automated Sys Maintenance- 3.00

COM1404 COMM Network Equip Operator- 5.00

COM1466 Comm Security Analysis- 2.00

COM2736 Introduction to DSS- 5.00

ELT1105 General Maintenance TRNG- 5.00

ELT1106 Intro/Digital Electronics- 3.00

ELT1210 Basic Elect Princ/CKTS- 2.00

ELT1451 Fiber Optic CA INST/MAINT- 1.00

ELT1455 Communication System Theory- 1.00

...........................................................................

CC :

COSC 1306 Intro to Computers - 3.00 Cr , Grade D

OFAD 1301 Beginning Keyboardin- 3.00 Cr, Grade C



...............................................................................

U. of Phoenix

GEN 300 Skills for Professional Development - 3.00 Cr, Grade C

MGT 330 Management Theory Practice and Application - 3.00 Cr, Grade B-

MGT 331 Organizational Behavior - 3.00 Cr, Grade C+

MGT 350 Critical Thinking Strategies in Decision Making - 3.00 Cr, Grade C

...........
4 yr State school-

ENG 131 Comp. Rhet & Argu - 3.00 Cr, Grade C

MTH 098 Fundamental Mathmatics - 3.00 Cr, Grade C

Mus 160 Fund of Music - 3.00 Cr, Grade D

PSC 141 American Govt Theory - 3.00 Cr, Grade B



A few notes: While in the Air Force I had two Jobs. First was an Aircract Crew Chief ( Mechanic) and those credits are noted by the AMT designator. Second job was Communications-Computer Systems Controls and those credits are designated by the CRM, COM, and ELT courses. I also have an A+ for whatever that might be worth credit wise. As I mentioned in my previous post I never really did well in college, and was there only because I though I had to be, but was an honor grad in my communications course in the air force which was far more difficult. I am committed now to getting this done, and want to say thanks in advance for your help. This forum is awesome! 

smithgw
#7
(04-11-2018, 11:05 AM)cookderosa Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 10:40 AM)smithgw@gmail.com Wrote:
(04-11-2018, 10:36 AM)dfrecore Wrote: ACE is a body that approves courses for college credit.  They are not a school (so no, you don't send transcripts to them).  They are also a credit-banking service, so when you take an ACE-approved course, you should add it to your ACE transcript (so yes, you should open a free account with them).

Once you take any ACE courses, and have them added to your ACE transcript, you can then send that ACE transcript to any schools that will accept it (just like a regular school transcript).

If you post the courses you've taken here, I can make a degree plan for you showing where your credits will most likely apply.  Separate them by school, put which type of school it is (CC, CCAF, or 4-yr school, and if it's semester or quarter based), and then list the courses including course #, course name, number of credits, and grade if less than a C.  Try to make it clear which type of numbering system the school uses (for instance if it's a CC that lists all courses as 0-99 as developmental, and 100-299 as regular courses; or if it's a 4-yr school that does the above plus 300-499 are Upper Level courses - it's good to know).

TESU will take about a month to do your eval, I can do it in about 10 minutes.

Wow, thanks for the quick reply. that helps clear things up. I will get my transcripts out today and post what I have. Thank you !


And to piggy back on Dfrecore's great explaination, ACE's purpose is to provide a transcript for your non-college learning.  So, the big companies we talk about here and use a lot include Studycom, Straighterline, Sophia, Shmoop, etc and since those are NOT college, they fit under the umbrella of ACE credit (ACE "says" they are worth credit, and then a college decides whether or not they'll agree).  Also in the ACE category are are a ton of professional certifications, licenses, and business training.  Even the PADI scuba diving credential is "worth" ACE credit.  You should browse their catalog and see if anything you may already have jumps out at you.  If you have (or are in an industry that you could obtain) the credit, it might be very inexpensive and worth looking at.  Pilot licenses, computer certifications, McDonald's manager training, and others are found in ACE's catalog.  So, anything that is worth college credit according to ACE, but happened outside of a college, would go in your ACE transcript.  Opening a transcript involves creating an account.  If you don't use anything via ACE, then no reason to create an account.

Ok thanks. Its all starting to make a lot more sense now. I do plan on utilizing study.com, SL, etc, once I have a degree plan figured out so it sounds like having an account with ACE is going to be a necessity. I also have lots of certifications I have obtained over the years that might be useful there as well. Thanks again for making sense of it all. It seems with every answer a new question emerges. haha. 

smithgw
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#8
Well, that's going to be a hard one to work on, as so many of your credits won't come in under the regular gen ed's or normal majors. I think you're probably better off waiting to see what TESU says for the CCAF credits for sure.

For Gen Ed's, you'll be able to see what you have already. Here's a generic BALS spreadsheet. You already have English Comp I & II, American Government, and a few others. I would work on getting the ones you know for sure you don't have:
1) Speech
2) Math (yours looks like a developmental-level course that TESU won't use)
3) the Info Lit requirement
4) the Diversity requirement
5) 4+ credits of Science and/or computers
6) additional courses in SocSci/Humanities
7) additional Gen Ed Electives

You can do all of this while waiting for TESU to do your eval. Then, when they are done, you can look at additional degrees (like the BSPS, and the BSBA if you're interested), plus check out the aviation degrees as well to see if any of them are a good fit.
TESU BSBA/HR 2018 - WVNCC BOG AAS 2017 - GGU Cert in Mgmt 2000
EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
#9
(04-11-2018, 07:52 PM)dfrecore Wrote: Well, that's going to be a hard one to work on, as so many of your credits won't come in under the regular gen ed's or normal majors.  I think you're probably better off waiting to see what TESU says for the CCAF credits for sure.

For Gen Ed's, you'll be able to see what you have already.  Here's a generic BALS spreadsheet.  You already have English Comp I & II, American Government, and a few others.  I would work on getting the ones you know for sure you don't have:
1) Speech
2) Math (yours looks like a developmental-level course that TESU won't use)
3) the Info Lit requirement
4) the Diversity requirement
5) 4+ credits of Science and/or computers
6) additional courses in SocSci/Humanities
7) additional Gen Ed Electives

You can do all of this while waiting for TESU to do your eval.  Then, when they are done, you can look at additional degrees (like the BSPS, and the BSBA if you're interested), plus check out the aviation degrees as well to see if any of them are a good fit.

Thank you for the help and suggestions. Im currently looking into the best path forward i. e which service would be the best option to obtain my credits. Study.com, SL, Schmoop, etc. I do still need the majority of the general ed classes and am eager to get started. going to try to get a " road map" together and research the options available .
#10
I forgot to post the spreadsheet, here it is:


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.xlsx   TESU 2016 BALS.xlsx (Size: 45.8 KB / Downloads: 18)
TESU BSBA/HR 2018 - WVNCC BOG AAS 2017 - GGU Cert in Mgmt 2000
EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA


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