04-14-2009, 10:32 PM
cframe Wrote:Sound Advice.>>
Jennifer, I appreciate your specifics. Sometimes I can't see the forest for the trees. That's why the sharing on this board is so great.
Based on your advice, I think I will offer to be the Next Step to those choosing to seek out first what a Community College has to offer. A 10-minute "Did you know" schpeal will at least give them enough info to know an online-lowcost-accelerated degree is possible.
So my next specific question is if one gets an AA/AS from a RA CC, are all lower level courses automatically fulfilled at all the Big 3? Do they simply start with their specific major requirements?
No. This "automatic" filling is specific to CCs that have Articulation Agreements with 4 year colleges. For example, our local CC has 17 Articulation Agreements with Illinois and Iowa colleges/universities that are both private and public- for any student who completes an AA/AS with us, we "guarantee" that the articulation agreement will accept their credit as a giant block of credit (which can include CLEP since we accept it- even if the university normally doesn't!). This is a perk because it makes for a smooth transition. The big 3 don't have articulation agreements (or at least I don't think they do- you might find some in their local towns) but they evaluate all credit independently when it is submitted.
That said- if the RA CC issues credit- the big 3 absolutely accept it because it's RA Transfer Credit into RA Transfer Credit- but in order for it all to fit perfectly, the candidate needs to be sure it matches (somewhat) into the gen ed program. A simple example- your CC might take English Comp CLEP exam- and then you earn the AA degree. EC won't take it even wrapped inside a degree (where the state university would!).
If you have someone who wants a bachelor's degree, I'd talk to them about TESC and help them mesh a CC associates degree into a nice plan that won't waste any credit. For the CC, use what you can, but then they can really hit CLEP/DSSTs for the bachelor since TESC allows that. (remember TESC has a 90 credit cap on CC credit- but that doesn't include CLEP credit that is part of a community college degree- just the CC classes)
I hope that isn't all too confusing.