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Patten MBA: how math-intensive is it?
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Hello, everyone...

I'm in the process of enrolling in Patten University's online MBA program. But before I make my final decision on starting the program, I need to know just how math-intensive the courses are. Although I do not have math phobia, my math skills are extremely weak to the point that I'd need several years of remediation to even hope for a 'C' grade in a course like intermediate algebra.

I'm worried about my ability to pass certain MBA courses such as managerial accounting and managerial finance if they are math-intensive. Thanks in advance to those who can answer.
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#2
I think any MBA is going to have a lot of math in those two courses. However, Patten lets you do a test first to see where you have weaknesses and then helps you with those. I think a competency based course (Patten or WGU) are your best bet.
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TheCommuter Wrote:Hello, everyone...

I'm in the process of enrolling in Patten University's online MBA program. But before I make my final decision on starting the program, I need to know just how math-intensive the courses are. Although I do not have math phobia, my math skills are extremely weak to the point that I'd need several years of remediation to even hope for a 'C' grade in a course like intermediate algebra.

I'm worried about my ability to pass certain MBA courses such as managerial accounting and managerial finance if they are math-intensive. Thanks in advance to those who can answer.

I can't comment on the patten program, but accounting is not very math heavy. Certainly not surpassing basic algebra, but I would say it normally doesn't extend beyond basic arithmetic.
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mednat Wrote:I can't comment on the patten program, but accounting is not very math heavy. Certainly not surpassing basic algebra, but I would say it normally doesn't extend beyond basic arithmetic.

Did my financial accounting and it was pretty much multiply and divide. Granted you usually have to multiply or divide several times in the equation to get the answer, but usually pretty easy once you get the formulas down.
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#5
anyone who can't pass a course in basic statistics doesn't deserve a masters degree in any field
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bluebooger Wrote:anyone who can't pass a course in basic statistics doesn't deserve a masters degree in any field
I'm the one who originally posted this thread and have already passed a course in basic statistics, but thank you for your input. Smile
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I wouldn't state it as harshly as bluebooger did, but an MBA in the business world generally connotates a Mastery of quantitative analysis in addition to the managerial portion. Some programs are more intense than others (especially the top programs with heavy calculus), but you should be able to do business mathematics operations such as matrices, regression, present value, amortization, sampling, etc.

I would wager Patten would require a fairly solid understanding of Stats and Algebra and nothing more. Am I pretty close Denise (Goodyellow)?

Thecommuter, you might be better served with a Master's in Management which is usually an MBA lite, with an obvious heavy emphasis in management theory.
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Prloko Wrote:Thecommuter, you might be better served with a Master's in Management which is usually an MBA lite, with an obvious heavy emphasis in management theory.
I've already decided I'm no longer pursuing the MBA. Instead, I'm going to pursue to MPS (Master of Professional Studies) degree with a concentration in human resource management dually alongside the MSN (Master of Science in Nursing). The HR coursework interests me more and aligns with several of my future career goals.
• Master of Science in Nursing - Eastern New Mexico University (in progress)
• Bachelor of Science in Nursing - Western Governors University (3/2015)
• Associate of Science in Nursing - Platt College (3/2010)
• Diploma of Vocational Nursing - Casa Loma College (10/2005)
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• Professional licensure: LPN/LVN (1/2006); RN (5/2010)
• 16 brick & mortar credits from Oxnard College (2000 to 2001)
• 38 brick & mortar credits from Tarrant County College (2006 to 2008)
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TheCommuter Wrote:I've already decided I'm no longer pursuing the MBA. Instead, I'm going to pursue to MPS (Master of Professional Studies) degree with a concentration in human resource management dually alongside the MSN (Master of Science in Nursing). The HR coursework interests me more and aligns with several of my future career goals.

Sounds like you have a solid plan.
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Don't waste time by trying to save time. The only sure way to complete your degree is to knock out credits quickly and efficiently.

Don't let easiness bite you in the rear. Know your endgame (where you want to be) and plan backward from there. Your education is a means to an end.

Be honest professionally, socially and academically. There are people (especially little ones) who look up to you and they're going by your example.

Be proud. Whether you're an Engineer or Fast Food worker, there is honor and dignity in hard work.

Picking on people weaker than you only proves that you are a weak person.
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There are a couple free MOOCs offered from University of Pennsylvania that can give you a head start in those areas.
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